Curse

Neo-LD · Mar 03, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

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Originally Posted by Mithie

Ranger spike got nerfed because you can no longer have Me/N's fast cast stacking dual orders.

not like you needed double orders anyways. ranger spike usually killed with alot of extra damage that didnt even arrive.

ranger spike is far from dead.

Yanman.be · Mar 03, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

uh the best ranger spike was 3 rangers, 1 me/n oov, 1 n/mo martyr and oop...they stacked orders alll the time...

also, they kinda nerfed signet of weariness alot for me...
i used to run mantra of sigs, oath shot, and sig of weariness for huge draining...won't work now :cries:

Lord Dark Genie · Mar 04, 2006, 02:05 AM // 02:05

The aoe of weariness was a bit too much imho. It destroyed A LOT of energy in tombs.

I see hex builds coming back, especially with Shadow of Fear spam. That will get rid of bad iways quite easily.

Greedy Gus · Mar 04, 2006, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by Amsterdam

Riposte builds get a big Smiley Face

rofl riposte builds

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Originally Posted by JR-

Indeed, they "Ether Prodigy"'d it.

However, that is one negative in a sea of positives. This update is awesome, absolutely excellent job. I am trying to work here, but am far too distracted thinking about a build....

Erh...when did ether prodigy ever get a nerf?

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Originally Posted by fear my warrior

Dwarven Battle Stance is amazing now... IWAY teams should start using it.

... and Crude swing is decent now.

Is this a joke post? So you hit, what, 11% more often now with DBS? Give me a break...

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Originally Posted by Wafflecopter

Hahahah, bulls strike is nice but not really effective in IWAY. I was thinking more along the lines of dropping order of the vamp and bringing WoP or Lingering curse or something.

Keep that brain brewing friend, because you're way off the mark right now.

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

I'm not seeing how Ranger spike got a death blow. Neither Punishing Shot or Dual Shot got a nerf. In fact, now rangers could use 2-3 more skills to add on damage. The Conjure spells got a buff too- no longer removes enchantments. Strength of Honor? Judge's Insight? I'd say Ranger Spikes got a buff if anything.

If I caught a ranger spike team using strength of honor, that might deal me a death blow of laughter...

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I don't know why I read these threads

JR · Mar 04, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

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Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

Erh...when did ether prodigy ever get a nerf?

Err, I meant Ether Renewal... DOH!

LightningHell · Mar 04, 2006, 03:20 PM // 15:20

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Originally Posted by T Waters

Biggest issue is a E Surge mesmer....wow those didnt get touched at all....its the biggest fotm...and those mesmers think they godly...godly mesmer can P block and twitch skills w/o migrane and 1 sec cast skills......

Signet of Weariness got nerfed. And I think it was the point of being a mesmer to fast cast...also...Power Block is really quick cast anyways...

LoneDust · Mar 04, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Ranger skills were boosted, but most of them has nothing to do with the typical ranger "spike" builds. You are not "spiking" someone when you are not doing bursts of 200+ damage in a second.

Greedy Gus · Mar 04, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by T Waters

Biggest issue is a E Surge mesmer....wow those didnt get touched at all....its the biggest fotm...and those mesmers think they godly...godly mesmer can P block and twitch skills w/o migrane and 1 sec cast skills......this is coming from a high ranked player whos been tombing for atleast 5+ months and pretty much seen it all up to date...some might agree and some might disagree...but i think there is hardly any balance with so many fotms....just my opinion and not hating or being a sore loser cuz i think guildwars is 50/50 when it comes to winning or losing its just boring fighting 40 minutes in scarred earth cuz all opposing team is e surge..

I think you don't know what you're talking about. Energy surge is a very offensive skill, not a stall-tactic skill.

Medion · Mar 04, 2006, 07:58 PM // 19:58

I think T Waters is talking about mesmers who Energy-drain with skills as weariness, not the skill E-surge.

Mandy Memory · Mar 04, 2006, 09:01 PM // 21:01

The ressurect adren change is what hurts IWAY the most.

leeky baby · Mar 04, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by T Waters

ok..signet of weariness is still meant to cast on "the target inteneded to e deny"...it dont need a reduction to aoe...who cares cuz the other person is probly getting e denied also....I think u just missed the point i was trying to make ;/

the reason it was getting nerfed was because some teams started to run QZ builds with keystone signet//signet of wearness//mantra of inscritpions// and arcaane echo which would drain the whole team of energy quite fast losing 40 energy eoe in 2 seconds is alot

u see although the eoe is still quite big, i still hit 2/3 people with it so

im happy altho e-denial is not as needed as much any more cause it was useful with iway and trappers but no much iway or as affective iway around therefore "shutdown" is better and good monks can handle e-denial. anyway lol

wheel · Mar 04, 2006, 10:02 PM // 22:02

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Originally Posted by T Waters

Hex Stacking will remains same and even more overpowered and there is just not enuff hex removal then haex stacking, not to mention they nerfed holy veil to longer recharge.

Purge Signet: reduced recharge time to 20 seconds.

There weren't really that many hex buffs. Notable buffs, though, include Shadow of Fear, Scourge Sacrifice, and Ineptitude. The Holy Veil change is fairly large, 18.18% increase in recycle, but I think that you'll see more teams bringing Purge Signet or Convert Hexes on E/Mo characters a lot more. The biggest hex buff isn't Holy Veil; it's the Lieutenant's Helm.