Curse

yesitsrob · Mar 03, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09

Shadow of fear is incredibly good now - that's really going to hurt warrior heavy builds. IWAY will still persist because it will still roll bad teams, it just won't have anywehre near as much lucky against average/good teams anymore

Billiard · Mar 03, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by fallot

Who uses these skills anyway ? :P

Probably why those skills were buffed?

yesitsrob · Mar 03, 2006, 04:19 PM // 16:19

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Probably why those skills were buffed?

It's a start, but they still don't look that useful

tafy69 · Mar 03, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

hod helm is 20% now. And OOV wont stack with tainted.

IWAY wont ever be as popular as it once was, RIP IWAY

Mod Edit: Pets DO stack with minions.

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Originally Posted by http://www.guildwars.com/aboutgw/gameupdates/default.php

"I will avenge you!": reduced attack speed to 25%; fixed a bug that caused this skill to trigger off of dead ally minions.

fiery · Mar 03, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

Eh Iway can't be dead, and Gale even if 10 energy usage ever heard of focus swapping?

Bugeater · Mar 03, 2006, 05:11 PM // 17:11

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Originally Posted by fiery

and Gale even if 10 energy usage ever heard of focus swapping?

The 10 energy cost didn't kill Gale for warriors nearly as much as fixing how exhaustion works. So you can't focus swap for half exhaustion costs like you could pre-patch.

JR · Mar 03, 2006, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Lets keep this discussion about PvP please. Any more PvE related posts will be removed.

Burakus Lightwing · Mar 03, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

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Originally Posted by fiery

Eh Iway can't be dead, and Gale even if 10 energy usage ever heard of focus swapping?

yeah, but how many warriors are really going to focus swap? Most Gale warriors use a shield. 10 energy+plus exhaustion even on a focus swap, you may be looking at three gailes then 0 energy plus exhaustion? Gale axe warrior is no more.

Neo-LD · Mar 03, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Burakus Lightwing

Gale axe warrior is no more.

warriors will now use their exact same builds but with bulls strike or shock in place of gale.

Symeon · Mar 03, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Iway isn't dead. It wasn't totally nerfed, because Anet were wise enough to predict the consequences of doing so. They just gave it a minor tone down, probably enough for less skilled people to stop using it, and the more skilled people to try to use it more effectively with other things.

This isn't a nerf. It's a simply to stop iway from continuing its lamo rule. It will still be a viable build, as will all the other prominent builds. I think Anet like the amount of tactics, strategy and thinking that goes into developing different powerful builds, and they like how there are several different kinds of builds continuously running with different professions involved. Iway was just too big, it had to be toned down.

Nerdy · Mar 03, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Iway and ranger spike have taken a bit of a pasting here but what about blood necro spike?

Just watch this one fly now...

Vindexus · Mar 03, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

How did Blood Spike get buffed? Because of the Soul Leech change or something?

Crippling Shot is still useable.

Medion · Mar 03, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13

I have a question, should cripling shot not be 8 second criple at 12 marksmanship?

To me it shows in the description at 12 marksmanship that it only lasts 7 seconds, can anyone tell me if this is wrong in the description or if it really is 7 seconds?

Vindexus · Mar 03, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14

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Originally Posted by Medion

I have a question, should cripling shot not be 8 second criple at 12 marksmanship?

To me it shows in the description at 12 marksmanship that it only lasts 7 seconds, can anyone tell me if this is wrong in the description or if it really is 7 seconds?

Izzy scales the skills from 0..15 attribute I'm pretty sure.

qwe4rty · Mar 03, 2006, 07:43 PM // 19:43

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Originally Posted by Wafflecopter

IWAY is no where near nerfed, in fact this might of just been the update to help IWAY out. I already have my brain a brewing on how to make it... better :]

The skill IWAY wasn't the main strength of the build

Amsterdam · Mar 03, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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Originally Posted by fiery

Eh Iway can't be dead, and Gale even if 10 energy usage ever heard of focus swapping?

Yes, and when you switch to a focus, and then switch back the energy is retracted and you sit at zero for untill you gain the energy you would have used in the first place, so u are in the -'s of energy for a minute. Not fun.

icemonkey · Mar 03, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

ragner spike got an undeniable death blow, forever RIP ranger spike. whats iA gonna do?

i wish there were more buffs to water magic

Sol_Vie · Mar 03, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I'm not seeing how Ranger spike got a death blow. Neither Punishing Shot or Dual Shot got a nerf. In fact, now rangers could use 2-3 more skills to add on damage. The Conjure spells got a buff too- no longer removes enchantments. Strength of Honor? Judge's Insight? I'd say Ranger Spikes got a buff if anything.

lyra_song · Mar 03, 2006, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

I'm not seeing how Ranger spike got a death blow. Neither Punishing Shot or Dual Shot got a nerf. In fact, now rangers could use 2-3 more skills to add on damage. The Conjure spells got a buff too- no longer removes enchantments. Strength of Honor? Judge's Insight? I'd say Ranger Spikes got a buff if anything.

I can definitely see Ranger Spike using conjure and dropping the Orders necro entirely XD

Mithie · Mar 03, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Sol_Vie

I'm not seeing how Ranger spike got a death blow. Neither Punishing Shot or Dual Shot got a nerf. In fact, now rangers could use 2-3 more skills to add on damage. The Conjure spells got a buff too- no longer removes enchantments. Strength of Honor? Judge's Insight? I'd say Ranger Spikes got a buff if anything.

You can't use conjure and Judg's or SoH if you still plan on shooting someone.

Ranger spike got nerfed because you can no longer have Me/N's fast cast stacking dual orders.