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Old Mar 21, 2006, 04:28 AM // 04:28   #21
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Yea mind burn on a heal sig+frenzy warrior will ruin their day in just seconds.
-no mending
-bring r sig
-Don't use heal sig+frenzy at the same time.
-do not use fds/ids

Bam you are better than 90% of the warriors I see in pvp randoms
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 05:34 AM // 05:34   #22
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Since you're new, I'll assume you dont have any elites or sup runes, so try this:
Just thought I'd clarify that. The goal was a learning build, not an optimum build.
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 05:43 AM // 05:43   #23
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My friend uses a W/N and gets along well.

Use a Status Ailment Axe warrior and equip Virulence as your elite. The result: Super ailments.
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Old Mar 21, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05   #24
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Most warriors are built with all warrior skills except for 1-2 possible utility slots. The three popular brands of warriors are W/Mo for CoP, W/N for plague touch, and W/E for shock.

Example CoP W/Mo Bar
Sever Artery
Gash
Final Thrust
Contemplation of Purity
Charge
Sprint
Frenzy
Rez Sig

Example Plague Touch W/N Bar
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Axe Rake
Bull's Strike
Plague Touch
Rush
Frenzy
Rez Sig

Example Shock W/E Bar
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Penetrating Blow
Shock
Distracting Blow
Sprint
Frenzy
Rez sig
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Old Mar 22, 2006, 11:19 AM // 11:19   #25
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Why not revive the old school KD AS build?

12+3 Hammer
10 Earth
8+1 Strength

Be sure to use L helm and Stonefists.

1)Zerker Stance/Frenzy(Depends what pvp your doing)
2)Aftershock
3)Crushing Blow
4)Hammer Bash
5)Irresistable Blow/Mighty Blow
6)Devastating Hammer
7)Sprint
8)Rez Sig

During the #6-#2 Adren KD spike, the target is kept on the ground for around
8 seconds; you are also dealing massive damage (enough to take down a squishy w/o enchants or half a wammoh without stance).

The downside to hammer builds is that you can't use a foci offhand; therefor, limiting your energy. In addition, your attack speed is slow, but that can be solved by adren building with a sword/axe (you could also put zeal mod on it to recover your energy after a spike, which cost around 15-20 energy).

When using a war, always use glads.
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Old Mar 22, 2006, 11:22 AM // 11:22   #26
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Why not revive the old school KD AS build?
Because it's bad.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02   #27
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So why was it the ONLY build asked for before IWAY became the main stream build after E/Mo Draw Smite.(About 8 months ago.)

AS is definately betetr than most hammer builds in balance: if your balance is running a 2 war one with shock one with as, you can catch the enemy monk backline off guard. In addition, Warders with GoE, EQ will help your AS damage also.

IMO, shock wars is just Fotm build.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38   #28
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So why was it the ONLY build asked for
The same reason that sundering mods sell for the highest prices?
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 07:45 AM // 07:45   #29
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The same reason that sundering mods sell for the highest prices?
Incorrect. It is because W/E can outspike any other warrior build; therefor applying tremendous pressure to the enemy monk backline.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22   #30
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The same reason that sundering mods sell for the highest prices?
I agree.

Why do millions of people watch American Idol?


People are stupid. It was never a good build. AS lowers DPS on a hammer warrior and it uses 10 energy, energy better spent on 2 attack skills.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 10:08 AM // 10:08   #31
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I agree.

Why do millions of people watch American Idol?


People are stupid. It was never a good build. AS lowers DPS on a hammer warrior and it uses 10 energy, energy better spent on 2 attack skills.
Mostly because its quite funny lol, and now and again some of them are not to bad.

But yeah KD/AS was popular when smiting was the fotm, but they also had Ward againt Foes usually which only cost 10 energy back then.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 10:56 AM // 10:56   #32
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I doubt he'd listen. I think I've already explained once to him already, AS has a horrible aftercast that you can use for more hits.

OMFG SUNDERING IS TEH PWNAGE!

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You sell it to nubs!
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13   #33
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most of the appeal of KD/AS is the AoE, it has decent dmg but you can effect a few members of the team as opposed to just 1.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37   #34
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There is some solid advise on being a warrior here with some of the skills to use from secondaries.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:19 PM // 18:19   #35
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#1 W/Elementalist: Shock
#2 W/Ranger: Tiger's Fury
#3 W/N: Plague Touch(GvG)
#4 W/Monk: Mending
#5 W/Mesmer: Not often used
I think shock is the best skill for a warrior so warrior ele
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 06:30 PM // 18:30   #36
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#4 W/Monk: Mending
PLEASE.
Don't reduce whammos to Mending. It is abusive and childish.
Mending is a powerful and great solo/farming PVE skill.
But inefficient in PvP.
CoP-Holy Veil combo is quite good. Mend Ailment too-helps a lot to remove your own conditions when your monk teamate is busy. Full adrenal builds while succoring/Holy wrathing/Bondering t your monks and using purge signet are fun too.
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Old Mar 23, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22   #37
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PLEASE.
Don't reduce whammos to Mending. It is abusive and childish.
Mending is a powerful and great solo/farming PVE skill.
But inefficient in PvP.
CoP-Holy Veil combo is quite good. Mend Ailment too-helps a lot to remove your own conditions when your monk teamate is busy. Full adrenal builds while succoring/Holy wrathing/Bondering t your monks and using purge signet are fun too.
i have a w/mo and i've never even once used mending. i was afraid someone might see me cast it.....

i chose w/monk so i can solo. i hate playing him in arena because i know how dissapointing it is to find a freakin wammo on your team. they rarely have res sig and rarely do any real damage.

cop/holy veil is fan tastic
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Old Mar 24, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36   #38
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PLEASE.
Don't reduce whammos to Mending. It is abusive and childish.
Mending is a powerful and great solo/farming PVE skill.
But inefficient in PvP.
Couldn't agree more. I'm ever so sick of those morons in arena who, after losing, laugh to see me using healing signet. Even with 12 in healing, mending and healing hands won't do anything but make your loss take longer to accomplish,and I should hope GW would make that clear in Factions. It is, after all, their fault that such a stereotype exists, with their pre-made builds.
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34   #39
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After reading this thread, I decided to work up a few good starting Warrior Builds...

Tiger's Fury Warrior:
http://forums.subcreation.net/viewtopic.php?t=225

Attributes
Strength 9+1
Axe Mastery 12+1+3
Beast Mastery 9

Skills
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Axe Rake
Disrupting Chop
Warrior's Cunning
Tiger's Fury
Resurrection Signet
Sprint

Anti-Condition/Plague Touch Warrior:
http://forums.subcreation.net/viewtopic.php?t=227

Attributes
Strength 12+1
Axe Mastery 12+1+3

Skills
Eviscerate
Executioner's Strike
Axe Rake
Disrupting Chop
Plague Touch
Frenzy
Resurrection Signet
Sprint
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Old Mar 28, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15   #40
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Couldn't agree more. I'm ever so sick of those morons in arena who, after losing, laugh to see me using healing signet. Even with 12 in healing, mending and healing hands won't do anything but make your loss take longer to accomplish,and I should hope GW would make that clear in Factions. It is, after all, their fault that such a stereotype exists, with their pre-made builds.
Oh man, what a thrill i get when i use shatter enchantment on idiots using mending, its an overated enchanment. Seriously, it gives you -1 energy regen, and since some of these builds rely on some energy based skills, have fun waiting for it to rise.
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