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Old Jun 11, 2006, 03:20 AM // 03:20   #1
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Default Nerf spirit spamming

IMO, spirit spamming is the lamest and cheapest strategy ever, and I've seen too many groups abuse it. Oath Shot and Ritual Lord are pretty much the two skills that make it possible so I'm proposing a nerf on these two skills. This thread is for people to say their views on spirit spammers and if they agree the two mentionned skills need a nerf.

I'd say: Oath Shot: - increase cast time to 1 second
- increase recharge to 30 seconds

Ritual Lord: - either increase the recharge time to 45 seconds or lower the effect to 15-50% faster recharge

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #2
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Wait... since when was spirit spamming a problem again?
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11   #3
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heh, never thought i'd do this but : http://www.sirlin.net/Features/featu...ToWinPart1.htm

ctrl-f for "lame" and "cheap".
sorry man, there's (some) truth there
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #4
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Spirit spam already got a nerf from Sout Twisting. It doesn't need another nerf.

The top 5 teams don't run a rit at all. Its a hard backline to break but once it folds the team usually does too. Since you have 1 person constantly in the backline it lowers the team's dmg output.

Learn to counter it. Enough with the nerfs.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #5
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IMO, spirit spamming is the lamest and cheapest strategy ever
Well then, if its so lame and cheap, why bother getting mad over it?
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12   #6
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Counter proposal:

Nerf scrubs. Make them learn to play.



Unless of course someone can give me a valid example of why spirit spamming is overpowered, with any applicable math.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 06:19 AM // 06:19   #7
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Maybe they're complaining about how 'C' and 'Spacebar' no longer works.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 07:26 AM // 07:26   #8
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heh. Not overpowered at all. if it, just have someone bring unnatural signet.

or, a less scrub strategy: just have a warrior stay on the ritualist/ranger. They'll have a lot less time spamming spirits if they're getting hit in the face with an axe constantly. I have yet to see spirit spamming become an issue.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 08:18 AM // 08:18   #9
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there's a counter.

it's called signet of humility. mesmer skill.

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 12:42 PM // 12:42   #10
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there's a counter.

it's called signet of humility. mesmer skill.

love,

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The top 5 teams don't run a rit at all.
Yes, some of them do. Did you not watch the GWFC at all?
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 01:02 PM // 13:02   #11
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Heres a wild idea... Why dont you use Rt's also ?
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 04:39 PM // 16:39   #12
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If spirit spamming is so easy to counter, than why do so many teams have a Ranger spammer, a Rit spammer or both?


Yeah, thats right your group can take signet of humilty, unnaturral signet, and 20 other skills to counter spirit spammers. But that doesnt matter cause you're all r13 pros with 50k fame and you win halls 30 times a day, and between the 64 skills that your team has, you manage to bring at least 10 for countering every single character build possible, no matter what build you're running.

And killing a spirit is gonna dishearten the spammer so much that he'll give up and stop trying.

KIll the spammer because 99% of groups are gonna be noobs that wont know how to buff/heal him.

Focus your entire team on the 1 or 2 spammers, and forget about what the rest of the enemy team is doing. They just captured your relic? Too bad, your team said to kill the spammer so you cant do shit about it.

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #13
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If spirit spamming is so easy to counter, than why do so many teams have a Ranger spammer, a Rit spammer or both?
Iway is popular as well, but it's easily beaten. As are touch rangers in RA. Your precious build lost to it once, doesn't mean it's overpowered. Tired of nerf topics, learn2play. Guess it's true after all...Stultorum infinitus est numerus. >_>
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 07:49 PM // 19:49   #14
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Heres a wild idea... Why dont you use Rt's also ?
I guess I'll have to, if everyone is running a cheap, no-skill build then I dont want to be at a disadvantage.


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Iway is popular as well, but it's easily beaten. As are touch rangers in RA. Your precious build lost to it once, doesn't mean it's overpowered. Tired of nerf topics, learn2play. Guess it's true after all...Stultorum infinitus est numerus. >_>
That depends on who's playing it. You cant just say anything is easily beaten.

A team wins just because of one person, the spammer and no, its not overpowered? I guess Anet is made up of gods who made GW perfect. Never in the history of the game has there been an overpowered or exploited skill/build right?
Anyone who has ever suggested a skill or build being over powered is a total noob and hopeless "scrub" and needs to learn to how to play.

Ok, so teach me how to play. Give me your IGN's and guild names so I can watch you people win halls 50 times in a row in observer mode (since you're all so amazing, you all must obviously be in a top-10 guild). Let me see you pwn non-noob teams with spirit spammers without using them yourselves. Come on, this scrub needs to learn how to play

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 09:32 PM // 21:32   #15
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Spirit spam already got a nerf from Sout Twisting. It doesn't need another nerf.

The top 5 teams don't run a rit at all. Its a hard backline to break but once it folds the team usually does too. Since you have 1 person constantly in the backline it lowers the team's dmg output.

Learn to counter it. Enough with the nerfs.
the spirit spammer never used that skill on HA

Ritual lord is such better skill

The only nerf needed imo is make ritual lord a enhancement so can be removed.
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 10:20 PM // 22:20   #16
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A team wins just because of one person, the spammer and no, its not overpowered?
how exactly do spirit spamming win you a game?
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Old Jun 11, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21   #17
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Less garbage.
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