Curse

Ronin Rangerin · May 17, 2006, 05:30 AM // 05:30

The only chance iway has of beating me is by freakin eoe bomb in halls with the double gank. Math included. Nerf EOE FFS.

I know most people say not to split on relic runs vs iway and dp them out first but screw that. They think theyre so pro at running relics like its thier pride and joy. Run run right from the begining, cap the first one, kill their relic runner then run another. gg iway math nubs.

And since when does a balance team require mesmers?

tryptamine_xxp · May 20, 2006, 07:59 AM // 07:59

you know if people didnt call iwayers-bspikes or whatever noobs this would make a whole new exciting ''split side wars'' of guildwars

--- maybe call it buildwars lol
Personally i play iway for about a week now starting from 9fame and only cause i want to get to rank 3. i consider myself a good player(3000hours pve) on guildwars but also on other games over the past 12years i play and i believe that playing order or martyr (the 2 roles ive ONLY been playing in iway groups) is a good way to learn how to react on enemy teams and how to speed up your communication skills with allies in battle not to mention getting familiar with maps!!! people call iwayers noobs all the time everywhere.... but ok lets say doing iway is noob and i choose a diferent path.. Say i start playing woh/hp - migraine - warder - shockwar with my 9fame on random pugs ...
1) ill either end up after long time with a totally random team of r0-1-2 where we will lose and i wont know if i was the only one good in team or if i was the only useless one ... oh and it will break up TOTALLY after first defeat
2) ill manage to sneak in a very good team witch will tell me things like '' OMFG HALE STAFF!!! KICK NOOB!!!'' or kick me after i ask what kite means or point me out and make me feel like crap cause i dont have an understanding of a certain skill's use
3) ill never find a team and ..... yup submit to all the crowding LFG IWAY spams

ive managed to collect 130 fame playing mostly order necro and bit martyr.Ive fought many groups and in all maps. ive faced many known and skilled guilds like [iA] and [MATH] (not saying we won :P) and generally good teams-- having a build like iway and a role as healer has made me see how most builds in the game work against an easy to use and pretty dangerous build as iway. maybe from my 130 fame the 30fame i got lying on the floor but still i think i know ALOT more than i did before i played HA and i cant w8 to be rank 3 so i can play some more interesting and skillfull teambuilds...
And just not to missunderstand myself i do play iway only to get rank 3 BUT i really enjoy it cause i love any type of team play and i will still do occasional iway after rank 3... i think lol
Oh and something to all the iway ranters: i believe there is nothing better than having a common team build widelly used (iway)that helps you learn how to criple and desolate an opponent and not to mention the joy of killing

ppl focus to much on how big their chances are at winning a foe ... you just want easier foes? i like that there is a build everyone can play that way when i got my 8man team going on (not iway ofcourse) i will have lots of heads to chop

rather that than 10 districts in international with w/mo and mo/w LFG HOH
peace!

Byron · May 20, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by Ronin Rangerin

And since when does a balance team require mesmers?

Mesmers are the pride and joy of balanced teams IMO. My favorite HA build includes 3 dom mesmers armed with distortion; maybe I'll post it sometime.

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Originally Posted by tryptamine_xxp

ill never find a team and ..... yup submit to all the crowding LFG IWAY spams

There are plenty of opportunities to play with a balanced - the most reliable roles are monks, of course. It seems most respectable HA players got their start as some kind of monk; I myself abused the RC/Prot slot until i reached rank 3. There are decent unranked balanced teams, and IWAY is not the answer to a lack of patience. Those groups suffer moreso form rage quits and uncooperative members.

If you're only after the deer, then go for it. Just don't expect much respect from the PvP community.

I could hate on IWAY so much right now, but my posts have been deleted before for such behavior.

General Surena · May 20, 2006, 09:00 AM // 09:00

The problem with Iway is not the build (well, not exactly, EoE needs a change), it's most of the people who play it. The dumbass, overly retarded whammos who farmed their FoW and now need to show off from the other side of the game. Rude, annoying comments in local (which can be turned off but does not remove the fact), generally bad behaviour.

I remember my old guild starting from Rank 0, losing horribly in halls, and now after many months they are all between rank 6 - 8. There is absolutely no need to play Iway to get fame, don't try hiding your very own lazyness. If you fail at socialising with other players over time, then you truly belong to the filthy trash can RA and Iway feed from.

master_of_puppets · May 20, 2006, 01:05 PM // 13:05

I agree with the people who said eoe needs a nerf but imo they should remove it from the game completely. I mean cmon half of the times iway wins its cuz of eoe. One of the most bs skills in the game

Ray · May 20, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets

I agree with the people who said eoe needs a nerf but imo they should remove it from the game completely. I mean cmon half of the times iway wins its cuz of eoe. One of the most bs skills in the game

... Kill the spirit perhaps?

Zui · May 20, 2006, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by master_of_puppets

half of the times iway wins its cuz of eoe.

Kill eoe?

Zeldawind · May 20, 2006, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Ray

... Kill the spirit perhaps?

thats pretty basic most fo the time its handy to have a warrior on spirit duty or whatsoever.

BTW that thingy about lazyness well, i know from experience that it took me sometimes a hour to get a balanced tombs/HA group just because ppl didn't trusted me cuz i was unranked. Well sry but i do understand that that guy went to iway cuz. I dont wish this fate to anyone else of having to wait 1 hour and the group inmediatly quits after 1 small run.

master_of_puppets · May 20, 2006, 03:25 PM // 15:25

U'd be surprised how many teams r too dumb or disorganized to kill the eoe. Also the spirit is often trapped which might make it harder to kill. Spirits have pretty big ranges so the warrior (considerin the team even has one) might have to go across the whole map to kill it.

If it werent for eoe how would iway ever win in courtyard or hoh

Zeldawind · May 20, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

thats why i said or whatsoever:P for all i care its a ele spamming ob flame or lightning strike to kill it:P mostly my team uses the warrior for this kind of crap

maraxusofk · May 23, 2006, 05:42 AM // 05:42

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Originally Posted by General Surena

The problem with Iway is not the build (well, not exactly, EoE needs a change), it's most of the people who play it. The dumbass, overly retarded whammos who farmed their FoW and now need to show off from the other side of the game. Rude, annoying comments in local (which can be turned off but does not remove the fact), generally bad behaviour.

I remember my old guild starting from Rank 0, losing horribly in halls, and now after many months they are all between rank 6 - 8. There is absolutely no need to play Iway to get fame, don't try hiding your very own lazyness. If you fail at socialising with other players over time, then you truly belong to the filthy trash can RA and Iway feed from.

I must say iway is a good alternative to doign balanced again if u were r0 and did lots of gvg. Seriously if u did balanced all ur gw life in gvg, wouldnt u get sick of it and look for an easier method. Even though i hit r6, i do b-spike because iway gets boring. I hafta say though even though i dont wanna admit it, iway does help in some aspects. Iway taught me how to better watch the field (seeing which targets are low on hp or is conditioned so i insticintvely go double gank without anyone telling me to) and interrupt (try intrupting wit spike trap like a few months ago).

Divinus Stella · May 28, 2006, 11:12 PM // 23:12

I quite enjoy raging both IWAY and the classic 7monk cheap-spike holding builds, i class both as being pretty damn lame so its nice to shout crap after a match and watch them ragequit, but to any decent team i'm fine.

It's stupid to expect every balanced build to stomp iway, at European primetime there often isnt enough IWAY about to justify taking heavy melee counters, if you take a heavy anti-IWAY build the chanced are your gonna come up against a necro spike of some sort and get your arse handed to you.

dare49devil · May 29, 2006, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Well, I did not read all 4 pages, only half of it, but I would like to add one thing.

The hardcore Iwayers who iwayed their way up to high rank screws up other teams.

The other day we got someone from xCMx or something (iway guild if u didnt know) and we saked if he could monk, because he was rank 10 or something. (we did not make the iway connection at that point) and he woh for us...

During the match we are dieing pretty quick and we are wondering why...And we see our WoH monk with a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing res sig, Healing touch, and one more out-of-place skill.

So yea, that happens with MANY iwayers. I have had many fake r9 players who get into r9+ groups, but suck dick. ><

nkabuto · May 29, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

_Well, just try to play IWAY yesterday and i can get for about 25 fame for 6hrs. Still noob at it but i think IWAY is a good build for people who still dont know much about HA and its map.
_Before i play IWAY i completely got no knowledge how that build is ( all of my time was playing balance group at TA, and improving my boonprot skill at RA ) and i try to search for Guildwarswiki about it, find it skills, get used to it.
_The problem when you get from TA to HA is its add 4 more people and the battle look really chaotic that i just tab and spacebar the target that i think is soft target. And in this, i find the problem of IWAY build is most of them dont have a good tatics but rush in and kill, if you are lucky you win, if you are not, you lose.
_Actually, not all iwayers are retard, dumb, stupid as you think. Yesterday, when we beated a team, some1 said "owned" and other of our group said that "you shouldnt say that, be gentle so people dont hate iway."
_Im planing on iwaying till i can get more used to HA and its map, after that i`ll try playing shock war for HA cause this is my favorite build.

My thought : Rank and title means experience, when you have experience, you dont need rank. If you are inexperience, rank mean nothing. Its just the way people ask to prevent noob apply to their team. Cause i played with 2 guys that rank 9 and 5 in TA before, i dont know how good they are at 8vs8 but they suck in 4vs4.

Mental Leteci · May 29, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

I think EW and iB made their point in the final match. If Arena Net still doesn't get the message in what this game is turning to I am sure 50% of the people won't buy new expansion every 6 months without any improvements.

tomcruisejr · May 29, 2006, 07:55 AM // 07:55

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Originally Posted by Mental Leteci

I think EW and iB made their point in the final match. If Arena Net still doesn't get the message in what this game is turning to I am sure 50% of the people won't buy new expansion every 6 months without any improvements.

huh, did one of them play iway?

play to win.

Mental Leteci · May 29, 2006, 10:37 AM // 10:37

Actually there was time when iB was playing iway.

Ado · May 30, 2006, 02:10 AM // 02:10

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Originally Posted by dare49devil

During the match we are dieing pretty quick and we are wondering why...And we see our WoH monk with a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing res sig, Healing touch, and one more out-of-place skill.

So yea, that happens with MANY iwayers. I have had many fake r9 players who get into r9+ groups, but suck dick. ><

It doesnt only happen to iwayplayers. It happens to a lot of players who play a profession they haven't played before. A r6/9+ player who played a lot of balanced probably knows which monkskills to take, but it doesnt mean that he knows how to use them if he never played monk before.

Byron · May 30, 2006, 06:20 AM // 06:20

With all the nerf-this, nerf-that chatter going around, GW may turn into a chess match on the next expansion.

Mental Leteci · May 30, 2006, 08:55 AM // 08:55

Well,if there is no nerf-this nerf-that this game would still be a fckng spirit spam abuse. Every MMORPG is constantly upgraded,it's how the thing work. When they fix one thing something else becomes stronger (sometimes WAY stronger) and nerf is necessary. ANet said that the new faction skills will fix the game play,but it actually did nothing. GG ANet,once more.