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Zinger314 · May 21, 2006, 06:13 AM // 06:13

The replies should indicate the situation.

Apprently the Luxons have pushed the line into Echovauld Forest, hence the Granz Frontier map, where the Kurzicks likely have the advantage. (As Luxons have the advantage in Eteran Keys)

I've been playing Alliance battles for a long time...and I've NEVER seen the Luxons push the line into the forest.

Why?

If so, is there a way to play this map more often? I'm sick of Eteran and Saltspray...

Symeon · May 21, 2006, 06:17 AM // 06:17

Back near the release, the Luxons were actually winning, and the line moved back and forth between Grenz Frontier and Saltspray Beach a few times. I played on that map several times during that period, so this is nothing new, just recently the Kurzicks have been holding the Luxons back.

Gmr Leon · May 21, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Hold on a sec,your saying the Kurzick,the people that no one in FPE wanted to play because they looked goth,have been winning since Factions came out? Wow,I thought I stayed up to date with the info on GW.I guess I was wrong...

Sai of Winter · May 21, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

Whoa, Grenz Frontier? Never heard of that place. Is it an Alliance Battle outpost/map when pushing the line further?

Gmr Leon · May 21, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

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Originally Posted by Sai of Winterland

Whoa, Grenz Frontier? Never heard of that place. Is it an Alliance Battle outpost when pushing the line further?

Yep,sure is.

d4nowar · May 21, 2006, 07:43 AM // 07:43

To clarify... that means Luxon pushed Kurzick back. Not the other way around.

Pick up the pace people (Kurzick). Start winning.

Huntmaster · May 21, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06

The supply run was nerfed so all us luxons are doing Alliance battles and pwning?

kvndoom · May 21, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

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Originally Posted by Huntmaster

The supply run was nerfed so all us luxons are doing Alliance battles and pwning?

I sure hope so! I've been tired of waiting 20+ minutes for you guys to show up!

Formina · May 21, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

I've played on this map before. I was very happy when I found out there were more maps than Saltspray beach and Enteran Keys! ^^

Cyan The Archer · May 21, 2006, 08:56 AM // 08:56

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Originally Posted by d4nowar

To clarify... that means Luxon pushed Kurzick back. Not the other way around.

Pick up the pace people (Kurzick). Start winning.

Us Kurzicks are always winning, we just thought it would be fun to let you Luxons have a win for once in a while, we were getting kind of bored at the stupid jade.

Maxiemonster · May 21, 2006, 09:15 AM // 09:15

So you guys mean that if Luxons wins, Kurzick gets the reward and via versa..? What's the logica in that?

Snowman · May 21, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Yea I got to play this map today and we won a few but its hideously kurzick biased!

Even more so that Etneran keys is btw!..

the middle first point for Kurzick on grentz has TWO monks, wheras the luxon first middle point only has one.

and the reason why we dont see Grentz much is because saltspray isnt balanced, its definatly got the kurzick advantage, again the middle point!.. the saltspray roost is a much clearer path for kurzicks, and their two left and right bases are much closer than the luxon ones.

Its sad, but the maps are no indication of Luxon or Kurzick prowess, its just an indication of the maps being biased,

I wonder if they will ever address this?..even the kurzicks admit that they have never seen grentz.

jmj102 · May 21, 2006, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by Snowman

.even the kurzicks admit that they have never seen grentz.

Why would they? If they did see greantz it would mean that they are losing..

Thom · May 21, 2006, 09:58 AM // 09:58

There are in fact, 5 maps total from what I understand 4 of which have actually been played to my knowledge. While the balance may play a slight role in recent trends, but I find it difficult to see how Anet hugely miscalculated distances on a fairly symetric map. Other things could play a role, for example the price of amber and the relative ease of faction farming for Luxons vs Kurzicks.

For a pvp player who simply wants to unlock and buy top weapons, kurzick is the natural choice simply due to amber prices. If I can pvp and make 2 gold per faction earned I'll go kurzick. Now if your pvp farmers are all going to one side, you will have an even larger effect on that side... players who just want to play with good players will go where the faction farmers go. Therefore your optimizers (winners) will tend to be kurzick creating the tendencies that currently exist. Note that this will likely swing back and forth, but this is an alternative explanation of current trends.

Snowman · May 21, 2006, 12:01 PM // 12:01

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Originally Posted by Thom

There are in fact, 5 maps total from what I understand 4 of which have actually been played to my knowledge. While the balance may play a slight role in recent trends, but I find it difficult to see how Anet hugely miscalculated distances on a fairly symetric map.

This is what I also thought, but can you verify that this is true?... if it IS true, then there are another 2 maps which are progressivly MORE biased to Kurzick?.... so there is ONE luxon biased map and 4 Kurzick Biased maps?... I agree, something is seriously wrong here.

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Originally Posted by Thom

Other things could play a role, for example the price of amber and the relative ease of faction farming for Luxons vs Kurzicks.

well, they have stopped the luxon faction missions inbalance, the question is will they will sort the map inbalances of Alliance Battles?

Snowman · May 21, 2006, 12:09 PM // 12:09

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Originally Posted by jmj102

Why would they? If they did see greantz it would mean that they are losing..

Because the kurzicks are players like everyone else and so far we are only seeing two maps, out of the 'aleged' 5!... playing against the kurzicks at Grentz even the Kurzicks are glad of the sheer change of scenery! I hate playing etneran keys as luxons, its just so easy its sickly boring and there is NO sense of a challenge at all!

Everone likes a close game, even the kurzicks

Ira Blinks · May 21, 2006, 02:55 PM // 14:55

Now I'm confused... Where is this place?

clarianaeneas · May 21, 2006, 03:03 PM // 15:03

I have a question; to take part in an alliance battle, does your alliance need to declare it's allegiance to one of the two sides (so you get the npc in your guild hall), or is there another way to access the battles?

Zinger314 · May 21, 2006, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by clarianaeneas

I have a question; to take part in an alliance battle, does your alliance need to declare it's allegiance to one of the two sides (so you get the npc in your guild hall), or is there another way to access the battles?

Yes. Only way.

BigTru · May 21, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

It's kinda wierd... because I remember days when Kurzick took over almost all of the map, but we were still in Eternan Keys.