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martyr migraine · Sep 24, 2006, 03:48 AM // 03:48

Destructive chop-
You lose all adrenaline and all Energy. If this attack hits, you deal +5...41 damage and cause a Deep Wound for 5...17 seconds. This attack always results in a critical hit.

taking a look at this skill im thinking its looking like a nice finisher- it almost always results in an instant kill against targets below 50% health, so running a couple of the IWAY warriors with this on (combined with a zealous axe) could effectively become a nice quick kill

thoughts???

regards-
martyr migraine

Wasteland Squidget · Sep 24, 2006, 04:01 AM // 04:01

It's not a bad skill, though I don't think it's a better choice than Eviscerate unless you're exclusively doing spike. Never having energy reserves on a warrior weakens your ability to pressure pretty significantly, especially in an IWAY build if you're running TF. It also doesn't synergize well with Frenzy either, since you're stuck in it unless you want to focus swap or something.

It's nice to have an alternative to Eviscerate though, and I think this will find it's way into a lot of pure adreno-spike builds.

martyr migraine · Sep 24, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10

well, i can see your point there, but one thing i don't quite get, don't most IWAY teams run bestial fury (cant remember name atm) in place of frenzy? eaither way i can see your point there......... well, ill try it out and report back, thats if i can get the faction required!

Wasteland Squidget · Sep 24, 2006, 04:34 AM // 04:34

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Originally Posted by martyr migraine

well, i can see your point there, but one thing i don't quite get, don't most IWAY teams run bestial fury (cant remember name atm) in place of frenzy? eaither way i can see your point there......... well, ill try it out and report back, thats if i can get the faction required!

Yes, but remember that IWAY is all about applying mass pressure. Giving up your energy reserve prevents you from using Tiger's Fury as much, which is going to make you do less damage to the enemy team. Even when pressuring a spike is important, but I don't think the difference in damage is enough to justify the time spent out of TF, and being less capable of using skills like Bull's Strike.

martyr migraine · Sep 24, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43

well! i love to think someone in this post has fully justified their thoughts! thanks for the feedback, even though i will still try to work it into a build i am seeing its downsides now.

thanks again!

martyr migraine

krytas · Sep 24, 2006, 12:17 PM // 12:17

Combine this with Taint and Toxicity, Iway will be applying enormous pressure.

Legendary Shiz · Sep 24, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49

Nah, this isn't better than evis.

Losing your energy is a horrible thing to have IMO. They need it to tigers fury, they need it to reapply their spirits, the sprint wars use their sprint to counter kiting (heh, I think I might be giving IWAY too much credit

).

All in all, I doubt IWAY wars bring this. Maybe one in a group will, but that's not going to happen in your everyday pug groups. It'll happen in guild groups and maybe high ranked pugs that can communicate.

JR · Sep 24, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by krytas

Combine this with Taint and Toxicity, Iway will be applying enormous pressure.

Eviscerate is better for pressure. Destructive is only really viable in a pure spike build.

tomcruisejr · Sep 25, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19

a.net just took dmg equivalent to 3-4 wand strikes from evisc. so eviscerate is still >> than this one.

l Batman l · Sep 25, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

evis is better for IWAY but this skill will still find it's way into some builds.

sgtclarity · Sep 25, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

You can negate the energy loss through weapon swapping of a -5e weapon and a -e focus. It gives you a decent bit of energy to swap back into after you blow destructive. Obviously it only helps minimally, but it could possibly make Destructive worth it.

torquemada · Sep 26, 2006, 09:20 AM // 09:20

However, Paragons could boost IWAY pressure and then some.

Loki Seiguro · Sep 26, 2006, 10:54 AM // 10:54

um.. i've never seen iway teams run frenzy ... ever.....they use bestial or tiger's.... then again ive never ran iway and just started recently (r3 now :P)

suiraCLAW · Sep 26, 2006, 04:38 PM // 16:38

IMO, the only nightfall skill that will appear in some iway teams is probably sweltering heat (put it on the second trapper), double adrenal for 4 warriors is just way too good (+ this spirit would make other warriors builds viable for iway, like a dragonslash warrior).

PanGammon · Sep 28, 2006, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Destructive Chop does seem like a rather devastating skill, if people found a good way to overcome the energy loss, IWAY just might overcome the mega nerfing it has recieved over time. I mean if Shock Warriors can get over exhaustion, I'm sure we'll be seeing destructive chop in IWAYing pretty soon.........................................

lishi · Sep 28, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by JR-

Eviscerate is better for pressure. Destructive is only really viable in a pure spike build.

but the warrior wont be able to take frenzy

Thomas.knbk · Sep 28, 2006, 08:33 PM // 20:33

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Originally Posted by lishi

but the warrior wont be able to take frenzy

Incorrect. Just swap weapons from 15%/E-5 to 15^50 after destructive and you'll have enough energy to stance dance

shardfenix · Oct 05, 2006, 01:42 AM // 01:42

it's a good thing iway players aren't smart enough to weapon swap when they spike.

tomcruisejr · Oct 05, 2006, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by shardfenix

it's a good thing iway players aren't smart enough to weapon swap when they spike.

if you played a warrior youll notice the pause from weapon swapping, smart one.

fenix · Oct 05, 2006, 03:52 AM // 03:52

I believe Destructive Chop goes up to +65 or something when at 16 Axe. I can't remember exactly, all I remember is that it's a HUGE amount of damage.