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Old Oct 24, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #1
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Default [6Man] Mixed Spike

W/E
Sever Artery
Gash
Dragon Slash or Hundered Blades (havnet worked out which 1 would do more damage yet)
Conjure Flame
Frenzy
Sprint
Shock
Rez Sig

Mo/Me
Air of Enchantment
Zealots Fire
Balth. Aura
RoF
Guardian
Strength and Honor
Draw Conditions
Rez Sig

E/Me
Psychic Distraction
Gale
Ward Melee
Ward Foes
Ward Stability
Stoning
Earth Attunement
Rez Sig

E/Me
Gale
Blinding Flash
Lightning Orb
Lightning Strike
Windborne Speed
Elemental Attunement
Air Attunement
Rez Sig

RC
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So basically the smiter is smiting off of the warrior the entire
Strength and Honor + Conjure Flame for the extra damage for pressure and the spike damage
on spike warrior uses severy..gash..dragonslash or hundered (i prefer hundered because you can also hit adjacent [works well with the smiter on hand]) Ele's are using orb/strike and stoning

PD and Gale is on first ele because of the fact that Signet of Humility and Diversion exist
Gale is on the 2nd ele for more interrupt
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18   #2
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Looks pretty stable. Some suggestions:

Warrior:
-Get sprint out for rush, your smiter doesn't have windborne speed (even though your ele does, he's got other things on his mind besides enchanting you all the time), so you need all the boost you can get, and due to the fact that both hundred blades and dragon slash are adrenaline builders, it will always be charged.
-Conjure FLAME: Why would put points in fire for a conjure spell when you have some in air for shock? Their is an identical conjure spell sharing the air attribute, so if you do use a conjure (not recommended), use air. Why should you not use a conjure? The points that you put in the element aren't enough for a significant DPS increase and they are keeping points out of strength.
-Sever+Gash? ugh. Although it looks good on paper, your sword elites, both of which are massive adrenaline builders, will keep almost any adrenaline skill fully charged most of the time. So, galrath slash, silverwing slash, and sun and moon slash are better options than some cheep conditions.

Otherwise, good build
Smiter:
-Pretty standard, I'd recommend removing draw conditions for judge's insight (of course you can't use conjure, big deal), that extra damage helps, and you have an RC.

PD Warder: Get rid of one of the two KD's and bring channeling, it'll help, a lot. I like the stoning idea.

Aeromancer:
-Dual Stripped Attunements FTW! Substitute ele attune for ether prodigy (wow, 5 second recharge, 1 second cast) and air attunement for enervating charge (to spread weakness to both cover blind and allow your PD warder's stoning to work).
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40   #3
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I'd probably make the warrior an axe warrior or give your sword warrior final thrust, which is an uber-spikeskill dealing around 150 Damage.
AoE Smiters can't spike that good, aswell. The Sword Warrior and this Smiter make your Build look like a pressure build.
Obsidian Flame is like the uber-spikeskill for an ele, it does 120 armor-ignoring damage and is non dodgeable, not like lightning orb.
Wow, and i don't know what this Firefox thingy is doing, but every word of this post is underlined except maybe 5 words.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42   #4
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Looks pretty stable. Some suggestions:

Warrior:
-Get sprint out for rush, your smiter doesn't have windborne speed (even though your ele does, he's got other things on his mind besides enchanting you all the time), so you need all the boost you can get, and due to the fact that both hundred blades and dragon slash are adrenaline builders, it will always be charged.
-Conjure FLAME: Why would put points in fire for a conjure spell when you have some in air for shock? Their is an identical conjure spell sharing the air attribute, so if you do use a conjure (not recommended), use air. Why should you not use a conjure? The points that you put in the element aren't enough for a significant DPS increase and they are keeping points out of strength.
-Sever+Gash? ugh. Although it looks good on paper, your sword elites, both of which are massive adrenaline builders, will keep almost any adrenaline skill fully charged most of the time. So, galrath slash, silverwing slash, and sun and moon slash are better options than some cheep conditions.

Otherwise, good build
Smiter:
-Pretty standard, I'd recommend removing draw conditions for judge's insight (of course you can't use conjure, big deal), that extra damage helps, and you have an RC.

PD Warder: Get rid of one of the two KD's and bring channeling, it'll help, a lot. I like the stoning idea.

Aeromancer:
-Dual Stripped Attunements FTW! Substitute ele attune for ether prodigy (wow, 5 second recharge, 1 second cast) and air attunement for enervating charge (to spread weakness to both cover blind and allow your PD warder's stoning to work).
Rush in for Sprint?
No.
Sprint is more or less just a cover for removing Frenzy when its all done and overwith..

You dont need judges insight ... Draw is for blind on the warrior
Conjure Flame is what makes this work because it deals out 12 damage a hit + the normal hit + strength and honor

and what you said for the ele
just no..
ether prodigy in HA? lmao
you remove that and then its gg on that ele
dual attunes > any other energy management

what you said for the earth ele proves to me that you've never won 1 HA altar map...
those 2 skills are in there for the fact of interrupting the ghostly hero after yours dies and they start to cap...

sword warrior skills are meant for the spike
severy.. gash.. hundered/dragonslash

also the thing with the conjure arguement it can be any conjure for all i care
but Shock is only used to KD the foe for the spike...

please if you dont have anything intelligent to say in return then dont post it
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48   #5
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I'd probably make the warrior an axe warrior or give your sword warrior final thrust, which is an uber-spikeskill dealing around 150 Damage.
AoE Smiters can't spike that good, aswell. The Sword Warrior and this Smiter make your Build look like a pressure build.
Obsidian Flame is like the uber-spikeskill for an ele, it does 120 armor-ignoring damage and is non dodgeable, not like lightning orb.
Wow, and i don't know what this Firefox thingy is doing, but every word of this post is underlined except maybe 5 words.
ya i was thinking the same thing with the axe thing
but thing with the sword is that it attacks much faster giving of course much more DPS (damage per second) - and with the conjure flame and strength and honor on the warrior that is going to be a lot more damage than the eviserate + executioners combo
and ya putting in final thrust is def. a better idea than the sever art. and gash combo because its basically like the same amount of dmg if not more and that opens up another slot for something that could be very useful..

you need the PD and the Gale on the Earth ele because of the fact that PD is going to be great for interrupting when a spike isnt coming around and the ghostly hero at the end of map..
Stoning does enough damage

The air ele needs to have the Element Attunement as its elite and not the Glyph and Energy/Obisidan Flame combo spike because there is already a warder in the build.. so basically the Air ele is just a blind bot that is defense 70% of the time and Orb/Strike 30% of the time
+ the Orb is always going to hit the enemy target because the warrior will shock the target right before every spike so that everything is 100% chance of hitting

and i dont know what you're talking about because im using firefox atm and I dont see any of anything underlined
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 01:49 PM // 13:49   #6
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ya i was thinking the same thing with the axe thing
but thing with the sword is that it attacks much faster giving of course much more DPS
Sword and Axe have both the same attack speed.


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Rush in for Sprint?
No.
Sprint is more or less just a cover for removing Frenzy when its all done and overwith..
Rush does the same job, plus gives you more free use for Shock and Frenzy.

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Old Oct 25, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54   #7
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Im not a huge fan of hundred blades, use dragon slash.

Rush > sprint

And plz put channeling on your pd.

Conjure flame = lol. Use heal sig, maybe final thrust...there are much better skills and better uses for att points.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #8
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ether prodigy in HA? lmao
lawl... that one made me laugh.

btw u dont need 2 gales, 1 PD and one gale is enough...
stoning isnt a brilliant idea either.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #9
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Im not a huge fan of hundred blades, use dragon slash.

Rush > sprint

And plz put channeling on your pd.

Conjure flame = lol. Use heal sig, maybe final thrust...there are much better skills and better uses for att points.
conjure flame is meant for the 12 extra dmg for flame damage + 12 extra holy dmg + normal hit dmg = better constant pressure / better spike

ele doenst need channeling the energy mangement is fine
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:19 PM // 15:19   #10
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Sword and Axe have both the same attack speed.




Rush does the same job, plus gives you more free use for Shock and Frenzy.
no actually the sword is much faster than the axe ... just does less damage
only reason i picked the sword was becuase of the add-ons to the warrior being strength and honor and conjure flame.. faster attack rate=more overall damage

Ya about rush... I wouldnt use it for anything except a cover for the frenzy
Therfore I dont need rush and it would be more or less just wasting my adrenaline for the spike
And btw if you havent thought about it yet if I put Final Thrust into my skillbar and used it on the spike I would have frenzy on me the entire time during the spike and after the spike because of the fact that final thrust uses ALL adrenaline and therfore I would most likely be killed by a good team because if they spot frenzy they are all over that warrior
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:27 PM // 15:27   #11
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lawl... that one made me laugh.

btw u dont need 2 gales, 1 PD and one gale is enough...
stoning isnt a brilliant idea either.
signet of humility + diversion exist
also considering the fact that PD will disable all your other skills for whatever amount of time isnt that great either

stoning is a brilliant idea becaause of the fact that the one ele with the wards is all defensive and its baiscally 15 energy big deal.. ive tested ityou might tihnk that that ele has problems but your wrong energy is close to perfect
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39   #12
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signet of humility + diversion exist
also considering the fact that PD will disable all your other skills for whatever amount of time isnt that great either
Well in all fairness we have been running a single gale and PD and it works brilliant on altar maps.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53   #13
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signet of humility + diversion exist
also considering the fact that PD will disable all your other skills for whatever amount of time isnt that great either

stoning is a brilliant idea becaause of the fact that the one ele with the wards is all defensive and its baiscally 15 energy big deal.. ive tested ityou might tihnk that that ele has problems but your wrong energy is close to perfect
Or you could just not cast gale with diversion on

yay for hex removal!
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:13 PM // 18:13   #14
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Your build is incomplete. You're missing attributes for 6 charactars. You're missing skills for two charactars. This means your build is only 1/3 complete. There's somthing abuot only posting full builds somewhere... Wait, I know where I saw it now, it's the sticky saying "read this first" in the Builds section!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3030660

The really important part of that would be: "please post well formatted builds with all characters, skills and attribute spreads."
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #15
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Your build is incomplete. You're missing attributes for 6 charactars. You're missing skills for two charactars. This means your build is only 1/3 complete. There's somthing abuot only posting full builds somewhere... Wait, I know where I saw it now, it's the sticky saying "read this first" in the Builds section!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3030660

The really important part of that would be: "please post well formatted builds with all characters, skills and attribute spreads."
Did JR make a second account :0

hehe
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #16
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Did JR make a second account :0

hehe
You'd have to ask him.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21   #17
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You'd have to ask him.
I'm not sure if I should laugh or explain that I made a joke.

That's how you know if you told a bad joke...when the person it's intended to can't tell you're joking.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55   #18
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I'm not sure if I should laugh or explain that I made a joke.

That's how you know if you told a bad joke...when the person it's intended to can't tell you're joking.
Non-super obvious jokes and sarcasam are lost in text, unfortunately.
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Ether Prodigy is better than Dual Attunements in all cases except with Bonders and Aegis. It's energy for all of your skills (not just Air and Ele skills) and it frees up a skill slot.

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I'm not sure if I should laugh or explain that I made a joke.

That's how you know if you told a bad joke...when the person it's intended to can't tell you're joking.
I got the joke first try.
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Old Oct 25, 2006, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #20
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Your build is incomplete. You're missing attributes for 6 charactars. You're missing skills for two charactars. This means your build is only 1/3 complete. There's somthing abuot only posting full builds somewhere... Wait, I know where I saw it now, it's the sticky saying "read this first" in the Builds section!

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3030660

The really important part of that would be: "please post well formatted builds with all characters, skills and attribute spreads."
uh
i dont see where im missing any skills...
but whatver
war
12+4 sword
6+1 strength
12 fire/water/etc.

earthele
12+4earth
10+1 energy
4+1 air
rest into domination

air ele
12+4 air
12+1 energy

smiter
12+4 smiting
9+1 divine
9+1 protection

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now honestly was it that hard to guess the attributes? :\
so the build is 3/3 complete according to you now considering im not missing any skills on any of my characters like you said were

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