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Old Nov 29, 2006, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #21
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Conjure pr0n?

Shadow Prison has its own problems, such as giving away the spike. Putting it on your skillbar doesn't give you license to slack off.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #22
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I calculated it with a zealous weapon. Roughly 1 energy every second+1pip. 1 energy/second is 3 pips. 1 pip is 1/3 energy per second. so 4 pips=4/3
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No, an zealous weapon is only required when you want to spam frenzy.
Wrong, it's required if you want to make use of frenzy with any frequency at all. refreshing HH consumes .4E/sec leaving .26E/sec for frenzy, which means you're limited to activating it once every 19 seconds or so. So...yeah..zealous is requirement, esp given that an IAS becomes more valuable when you're attacking a snared target.

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And I don't know if you get this, but perma-cripple is so much more pressure than +14 damage. And it's great to RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO with incoming emoflaggers.
I understand the value of perma cripple. Do you understand basic math?
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 09:46 AM // 09:46   #23
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It's a pretty ridiculous debate either way. Who cares if you have to sit in Zealous a fair amount of the time to keep Frenzy energy up? You're losing 3 points of damage a hit from Vampiric, but that's next to nothing in the context of the skills being compared. Neither skill allows you to use Vamp to begin with.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 10:25 AM // 10:25   #24
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Oh I agree, it's not significant at all in the larger scheme of things. But I think arguing that one option requires you to take a certain weapon hilt and the other doesn't is disingenuous.
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Old Nov 29, 2006, 10:41 PM // 22:41   #25
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I've always been a fan of the conjure war in HA, its a sweet little DPS boost, especially nice on a single war, tasked with taking down degened targets in hex/condition builds.

I used to run:

16 axe/9 strength/10 air

Eviscerate [e]
Axe Rake
Executioners
Frenzy
Sprint
Shock
Conjure Lightning
Rez

Perhaps a little old fashioned for HA wars now days, but I haven't been near the place since heroes were allowed in.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36   #26
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Last time we used Conjure warriors in HA we had 3 and it looked like this:

1) Aero Warrior

12 Air
14 Axe
9 Strength

Frenzy
Rush
Disrupting Chop
Lightning Surge
Lightning Orb
Conjure Lightning
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Rez Signet

2) Hydro Warrior

12 Water
14 Axe
9 Strength

Frenzy
Sprint
Disrupting Chop
Shatter Stone
Vapor Blade
Conjure Frost
Glyph of Lesser Energy
Rez Signet

3) Pyro Warrior

12 Fire
14 Axe
9 Strength

Starburst
Dismember
Crit Chop
Distrupting Chop
Frenzy
Rush
Conjure Flame
Rez Signet

We had 1 Dom Mes + 2 Monks along.


It was totally hilarious and we rolled over many very good teams. What we did was just pressure their softies non-stop with warriors on their back doing huge damage cause of Conjures in Frenzy and we did elemental spikes doing LSurge/LOrb-Shatter/Vorpal-Dismember-Crit Chop-Starburst. The spike killed someone straight from full once LSurge-Shatter went off (Mesmer took care of protective enchants thrown). All adrenal was mostly used for Disrupting Chop so we spammed a lot of that. It was pretty funny cause most people sent anti-war stuff on our back but then we could still spike very well, and if they sent anti-caster stuff we'd just pressure. The wars were a true pain to shutdown.

We got to HoH but one of our monk was err7 and we had Healer Hench so we didn't win it.

Note that this was just before Nightfall, after the skill balance but before Paragons were release. Still that's the most fun i had with Conjure Warriors =p
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47   #27
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O_o. Shatterstone on a warrior?
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 08:24 PM // 20:24   #28
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Yes

I'm not gonna try to defend that this build is the best thing around. But it's better than most think of at first glance.

With GoLE, Shatterstone-Vapor just cost 5E. And at 12 Water, it deals 85+85+111 damage (281 total). It's useful as cover hex for LSurge. Note that with the current Divert Hexes it might not work at all, but it wasn't there then.

LSurge-LOrb did around 200 damage, Shatter-Vapor did around 200-280 damage, Dismember-Crit Chop-Starburst was around 300 damage. It was more than enough usually to take down someone. Even warriors were dying pretty straight.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26   #29
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Lack of Conjure Earth is actually a bummer. Australian Metagame [sux] used to a pretty wicked pressure-spike by having their warriors all turn around and cast Obsidian Flame at some guy.
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57   #30
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Conjure earth is Stone Striker
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Old Nov 30, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18   #31
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Conjure earth is Stone Striker
It's not equal to the other Conjures, though. No extra damage. That, and you could get the same effect on a Warrior by switching to an Ebon Weapon, in addition to it meaning that all the damage you take is elemental...
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Old Dec 03, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40   #32
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Conjure is nice, but I'd rather add in another adrenaline attack skill or a disrupt/snare or something else in 8v8 or 6v6. It rules RA now though...
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