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dansamy · Dec 12, 2006, 01:20 AM // 01:20

If Bill wasn't married, I would think he was flirting.

I'm most likely not playing in tourney, Bill. Unless they absolutely need me. I'm wrapping up the last tidbits to my nursing degree, and as XoO knows all too well: RL > GW. There are other players on our team who very much want to participate, while I'm rather ambivalent over it. Unlike other players, I've done nearly everything in GW that I've ever wanted to do. If the others desire to play more than I, I can be gracious enough to allow them that.

Guillaume De Sonoma · Dec 12, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by Drewfense

I know you are speaking favorably about both of these teams, but I think many people attach a very negative connotation to eurospike. I know eF does not run eurospike at all. Their recent ladder push was done using a pressure build. The few times I have seen ICE play, they have also been playing pressure, but I have not seen them play that much so I could be wrong.

Otherwords, eF and ICE are very good teams that will be at the top of the tourny. They aren't eurospike nublets.

I may be wrong about eF, but I think I recall seeing them play spike if I am not mistaken pre energizing finale nerf. ICE is eruospike unless they have also changed after the energizing finale nerf.

Sacred o_O · Dec 12, 2006, 01:32 AM // 01:32

Hopefully it will come down to eF vs. QQ, that would be amazing to watch.

Both teams have extremely talented players, and it's pretty safe to assume that they won't lame it up with Eurospike.

Zuranthium · Dec 12, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Billiard

You know I always wonder about iQ. They seem to come up with really creative strats and this type of format seems conducive to that. They also seem to just play enough to position where they want to be, so it makes me wonder if they'll be a little rusty compared to other folks who have been really active the entire season like say QQ, who has looked really sharp.

Just because iQ doesn't play as much on the ladder, that doesn't mean they aren't testing builds in scrimmages and watching observer mode to get a good handle on their opposition (ummm, I'd hope, lol).

~Z

Thom Bangalter · Dec 12, 2006, 05:08 AM // 05:08

20 bucks says iQ runs a physical heavy build, possibly with ebon dust aura.

Patrograd · Dec 12, 2006, 07:00 AM // 07:00

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium

Just because iQ doesn't play as much on the ladder, that doesn't mean they aren't testing builds in scrimmages and watching observer mode to get a good handle on their opposition (ummm, I'd hope, lol).

~Z

I'm a huge fan of iQ. They have some really brilliant and inventive players, but it seems as if this season something has been missing. I have seen them on obs a couple of times, and was even lucky enough to play against them once, and while it is true to say that they won all these games, it felt like it was quite a bit of a struggle considering the level of opposition they were facing in these games.

Maybe I just saw them on an off day, idk.

As for the EU/US split, it has always been the case before that American guilds had a much higher percentage of teams at the top of the ladder than you would expect. This season has been the weakest performance ever from the US guilds as a whole with a huge powershift towards the EU teams.

WHo will win? I don't know, its a strange format.

linh · Dec 12, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

In my opinion WM, eF and QQ are best guilds atm. They are at very high level about players skills, builds and tactics ( EvIL doesn't have core team anymore, Te has some problems with activities I think). But iQ in playoff always play smartest and is really a "play to win" guild.

So in this playoff, IF every guild plays seriously with their best members, it will be hard to see who is the winner between iQ, eF and QQ. But I doubt people will have enough motivation to play at their best in the playoff because this is just a "fun" season. That's why this playoff is very hard to predict a winner. Every guild has a chance to win this.

tomcruisejr · Dec 12, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

it'll be a QQ vs iQ rematch - "Playing good vs Knowing how to win" part 2.

Zeldawind · Dec 12, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09

if dT lsot to bloodspike btw thats was cause they were surprised to see it and that their fastest heal is a GoH which doesnt help much against that bloodspike, unless you can respond whitin 0.25 seconds because the afterspike has a cast time of 1 second.

But who will win in the playoffs i have no idea. I expect that iQ ICE PnH and dT will end high for the rest dont really know WoW might cause a little surprise.

Wasteland Squidget · Dec 13, 2006, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Apparently, iQ isn't playing this playoff season. A shame, I'd have liked to see what they could do.

dansamy · Dec 13, 2006, 04:08 AM // 04:08

*/doubletake* Huh?!?! Why isn't iQ playing?

Wasteland Squidget · Dec 13, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14

They posted on TGH about it. Too many scheduling conflicts, and not enough of their members were able to make it. It's a real bummer, I would have loved to see them.

Quite a few guilds in the top 32 will not be sending in rosters, so it will go lower than that. NUKE's sent in a roster and I think we'll get in, but not sure who else will do the same.

Senator Tom · Dec 13, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51

I highly doubt ICE will be in the top four. That aside, QQ vs iQ sounds pretty believeable. eF will definately be in there high up, i just dont know how well iQ will do as they didnt play much this season. also some high expectations for tag, i know theres at least one [Fish] monk in that guild.

Wasteland Squidget · Dec 13, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14

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Originally Posted by Senator Tom

I highly doubt ICE will be in the top four. That aside, QQ vs iQ sounds pretty believeable. eF will definately be in there high up, i just dont know how well iQ will do as they didnt play much this season. also some high expectations for tag, i know theres at least one [Fish] monk in that guild.

Read previous posts. iQ will not be playing.

Thom Bangalter · Dec 13, 2006, 07:38 AM // 07:38

QQ gets gold capes then. They deserve it, if only because Tommy is in the guild.

Wasteland Squidget · Dec 13, 2006, 07:42 AM // 07:42

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

QQ gets gold capes then. They deserve it, if only because Tommy is in the guild.

Seeeesaonnsss oooofff LOOOOOOOOOOOVVVEEEEE!

Zui · Dec 13, 2006, 08:52 AM // 08:52

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Originally Posted by Zeldawind

if dT lsot to bloodspike btw thats was cause they were surprised to see it and that their fastest heal is a GoH which doesnt help much against that bloodspike, unless you can respond whitin 0.25 seconds because the afterspike has a cast time of 1 second.

But who will win in the playoffs i have no idea. I expect that iQ ICE PnH and dT will end high for the rest dont really know WoW might cause a little surprise.

Ever heard of Aftercast?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aftercast

The average human reaction time is .2s, by the way.

Also, why would anyone be supprised to see blood spike? There were plenty of dedicated Blood Spike guilds out and farming this season...

Zeldawind · Dec 13, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

Ever heard of Aftercast?

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Aftercast

The average human reaction time is .2s, by the way.

Also, why would anyone be supprised to see blood spike? There were plenty of dedicated Blood Spike guilds out and farming this season...

HMm im pretty sure my reaction speed in GW is close to that maybe in real life but not on a screen.
And the first time [Shiv] got in the top whit bloodspike it was a surprise and btw i assumed they lsot then to a bloodspike and not after it. After that yeah you could expect to face bloodspike so if you know the whole season then you could take that into account aswell.

Btw i didn't knew exact after cast times i thought it was like 0.3 seconds or something not 0.75
I was thinking around 0.3~0.5 seconds.

yesitsrob · Dec 13, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

I think QQ will win it, I like how they've pretty much ran anything this season and finished as one of the top teams. I think there is a big difference between them and most the other guilds in it. And I think they deserve to win it really.

eF, ICE, Ace, PnH, WoW are other guilds I'd like to do well since I think they are genuinely good.

romO · Dec 13, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

1st Swiss round Pairings

1
Team Everfrost
Ward Against Noobzz
32

2
Team Quitter
L I Z Z A R D S
31

3
Clan Detained
Zero Files Remaining
30

4
The Celebrities
Oo The Ancients Oo
29

5
Frozen Flame
Free Will
28

6
Supernova Jpn
Newbs On Tour
27

7
Chaossanctuary優
Moa Birds
26

8
The Bouncers
Empty Skillbars
25

9
I Agony Realm I
Esoteric Warriors
24

10
Smart People
Legion of Losers
23

11
Peace and Harmony
Rise In Superior Competition
22

12
Necro Raiders
Bruderschaft Der Verdammnis
21

13
Time Is Running
Storm Bearers
20

14
Portrayers of Valour
Rus Corp
19

15
Ominous Latin Name
Bezmyslne Dogadzanie Sobie
18

16
Powerfpuff Boys
The Flying Liberaces
17

Round 1 map: Isle of Solitude

Round 2 map: Isle of Wurms

Round 3 map: Corrupted Isle

Round 4 map: Uncharged Isle

Round 5 map: Warriors Isle

For anyone who doesn't feel like taking the time out to look at which guilds dropped out of the tournament, it was iQ, FS, BRB, and BoAs.

iQ had scheduling problems, so they couldn't get the right 8 members together. I believe FS didn't have an eligible roster. BRB is a pug guild. I have no idea who BoAs is.