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still.mojo · Aug 22, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08

Didnt know TA players are so dedicated.As season ends, we started playing TA's a lot, and i can say its fun.Fast games, sadly most dont require much effort tho.The ones that do are great, like little split skirmishes in GvG.

I noticed that <Eat> guild u ppl talk about, had few fights vs them, some were very tough, especially since most of ppl that come arent always gvg based part of guild.I must say that showe/wildblow assasin combo is nice.
Pitty there isnt observer dedicated for TA, or small championship in 4vs4, i think lot ppl would play it.
Anyways, fun is what i come for in TA, glad points are nice add, but titles are not of big importance anyways, its just fun to swap them round.
I also noticed that ppl behave better in TA-s, less trashtalk is ftw.
Gl all, and cya in i guess.

Divineshadows · Aug 22, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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Originally Posted by still.mojo

I also noticed that ppl behave better in TA-s, less trashtalk is ftw.

Please clarify...do you mean that there is less trashtalk in TA than in HA? Or did you mean there is less trashtalk in TA than in GvG? The latter is something with which I cannot agree.

Kruzing Low · Aug 22, 2006, 06:55 PM // 18:55

anyone running nr/tranq
everytime with the team i run with we get a few glads, and end up making one mistake against teams running this and its over
just last night our team went 10 minutes against an nr/tranq team, and ended up losing because we switched over to defending which let them fully trap and set up the nr/tranq spirits

Van Goghs Ear · Aug 22, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

unless you are playing against kgyu, there is less trash talk in gvg than in ta.

Legendary Shiz · Aug 22, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

There is quite a bit of trash talking in TA. Not sure who you played against

still.mojo · Aug 22, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Damn, u havent heard some gvg ppl then.Tombs i wont even mention, its pointless.
Dont know rly, we played lots last 2-3 days and "funny" talk was at minimum.

yesitsrob · Aug 23, 2006, 03:15 AM // 03:15

I don't see much trash talking. I see a damn lot of whining from certain TA guilds who blame their losing on anything but the truth, which is that they played awful.

Just say "gg" imo, or insult my random arena teams some more like men, I guess.

sno · Aug 23, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by yesitsrob

I don't see much trash talking. I see a damn lot of whining from certain TA guilds who blame their losing on anything but the truth, which is that they played awful.

I love it when people say "we're from RA" after they lose. You didn't rage quit after 10 wins in random, so now you're in TA. No one cares that you're from RA, yet every single time we rock an RA group in 50 seconds, they have to say "we're from RA" (or more accurately "wer ra grup".)

As for [Eat], we don't really make excuses for losses. If we lose, it's generally either because we have some new or pug person in our group, a new build, or that we were simply outplayed. If we're outplayed (which is rare tbh,) it's almost always by people or a guild that we know, and "gg" or "vgg" always follows.

yesitsrob · Aug 23, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20

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Originally Posted by sno

I love it when people say "we're from RA" after they lose. You didn't rage quit after 10 wins in random, so now you're in TA. No one cares that you're from RA, yet every single time we rock an RA group in 50 seconds, they have to say "we're from RA" (or more accurately "wer ra grup".)

Rofl. this is so true. Some time ago now, I went in with just a few people I know, so happened we were all in different guilds, so we kept saying "we're from RA" as a joke, was pretty funny.

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As for [Eat], we don't really make excuses for losses. If we lose, it's generally either because we have some new or pug person in our group, a new build, or that we were simply outplayed. If we're outplayed (which is rare tbh,) it's almost always by people or a guild that we know, and "gg" or "vgg" always follows.

I know, I was not referring to Eat. I don't TA much at all, but when I do Eat is the most challenging guild in there in my opinion by far. Which is normally because a lot of guilds just don't take it seriously and have a grab and go approach - I'm normally somewhere in the middle, at times I use a build, other times just take whatever... Both normally fetch a long winning streak. Not enough good players play TA, which is a shame

xAzNxStYlEx · Aug 23, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

i do agree there is more trash talk in ta, good player usually hanging around in ta storage, the upper part of the map, and most of the time, some of good player in ta hold grudge against one another, under 2 reasons:
1. the player dissing people alot
2. the player talk trash after the game.
so u will c people gather around the storage, talking about somebody, or gang up to to diss a person, that's pretty funny though, cause i usually stand there and c how immature people can get:-)

D E L E T E D · Aug 23, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23

the best besides the "we r from ra" is the "f'ing guilds groups, STAY OUT OF TA" idk if you guys get this often, but I sure as hell do. I never knew there was a law forbidding guild groups of forming.

lols

Van Goghs Ear · Aug 23, 2006, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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"f'ing guilds groups, STAY OUT OF TA"

you should have seen when I was trying to help Sidious and Im A Paladin try to get their next Glad titles. People were making it quite clear that pally was NOT welcome in TA, and should be "GVGing".

There has ALWAYS been an acceptable level of trash talk in arenas. You think it's bad right now then you are a title bandwagoner...

I remember back around 5-6 months ago during the height of my Ta'ing when all I did was farm sorrows furnace and pug TA, the trash talking was astronomical. Anybody who played around the time can easily back it up. If you played frequently back then and you knew the regulars (back when the regs were like ebola, zork, blister, etc and the dominant guilds in ta were like...fame and rofl), then you would remember some of the massive flame wars and trash talking that would go on. Particularly two former guildies of mine The Action Combo and Satanic King were notorious trash talkers when I was in Hot Asian Chicks with them. They definately took it to a level beyond what it should have been, however I do believe that trash talk is a wholesome part of TA within reason. If you take it to seriously then you need a shrink not an internet game, otherwise it's just all in good fun.

keep respectability where it belongs, in GVG. TA is open season.

TimTimTimma · Aug 23, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

It is a shame there is no 4v4 Team Arenas Ladder. It would be fun to have some competition of that sort and have it exposed. Then A-Net could sanction official 4v4 Tournaments, and it would be like the NCAA with like 100 teams going for the gold o_o;

Id creme myself if anet implemented something like this into TA :P

Even thou according to most posts ive read we, [Eat], seem to be the "dominating" TA guild. So its only safe to assume we would be near the top somewhere (if not the top).

Camille Constantini · Aug 23, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by sno

I love it when people say "we're from RA" after they lose. You didn't rage quit after 10 wins in random, so now you're in TA. No one cares that you're from RA, yet every single time we rock an RA group in 50 seconds, they have to say "we're from RA" (or more accurately "wer ra grup".)

As for [Eat], we don't really make excuses for losses. If we lose, it's generally either because we have some new or pug person in our group, a new build, or that we were simply outplayed. If we're outplayed (which is rare tbh,) it's almost always by people or a guild that we know, and "gg" or "vgg" always follows.

About the RA, agreed, about the "gg" i beg to differ T__T

Logan Raziel · Aug 24, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

The best is being in an all guild group and responding back to a "We're from RA" group saying you are too...

But anyways, yes, the good ole days. Before NR, before blessed light monks...(BTW just to Eat, BL monks are awesome in NR, with your new build with 2 mesmers, a boon prot would be much better IMO. Without interupts, without diversion, without any real shut down to me besides a shame...which confused me and the occasional backfire, burn/surge). And if I may make a suggestion...instead of putting draw on your monk, when you have 2 other casters, put it on another caster. Ofcourse you dont have to take my suggestion, I'm just saying that your BL monk was extremly easy to shut down in that build, and since theres no off monk condition removal, your warrior cant do much.

And hey I have to give some love to the guild that got me hardcore TAing with balanced groups, the guild that inspired me to mez. Serp. They were awesome back in the day, I miss them

Chase The Sky best boon prot monk ever <3.

yesitsrob · Aug 24, 2006, 04:48 AM // 04:48

that build with 2 mesmers, from a warriors pov is a pain to fight against

- spirit shackles, price, spirit, 2 copies of distortion... ouch. And the sig of humility was nasty at shutting out expel for periods of time. Lot of shutdown.

sno · Aug 24, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54

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(BTW just to Eat, BL monks are awesome in NR, with your new build with 2 mesmers, a boon prot would be much better IMO. Without interupts, without diversion, without any real shut down to me besides a shame...which confused me and the occasional backfire, burn/surge). And if I may make a suggestion...instead of putting draw on your monk, when you have 2 other casters, put it on another caster. Ofcourse you dont have to take my suggestion, I'm just saying that your BL monk was extremly easy to shut down in that build, and since theres no off monk condition removal, your warrior cant do much.

Our current balance was and still is very much in beta. We've been changing little things here and there around in an effort to make it work against the current TA metagame. We're not going to build just to beat ROFL, although with slight changes we made recently we'd have a much easier time with your team. The shame was for expel hexes, by the way. As for boon vs b.light, in my opinion b.light monks (at least the build we run) are much more resilliant vs heavy hex and heavy melee, and having draw means our warrior will stay clean and condition pressure builds won't work. With good use of hex breaker and focus-swapping, paired with quick reflexes (cancelling skills to avoid shame/diversion, etc) your mesmer build is quite beatable. We'll just have to see how our changes work next time we're both in TA (and both have our top TAers in, which certainly isn't most of the time.)

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And the sig of humility was nasty at shutting out expel for periods of time.

That's actually one of the recent changes we made

Logan Raziel · Aug 24, 2006, 05:06 AM // 05:06

He he, I love how you guys never make excuses when you lose just like you said...

And I never said any of that was at all a counter to us, but thats what good balanced groups do...if your monk cant cast, then there is no way to remove blind on you war, and if your war cant pressure the mez, your monk wont be casting much at all. Ask about any good balanced group...draw is a must on an off monk, not only to keep wars clean and handle condition degen, but also saving the monk with a quick draw of deep wound, or even to help if a crip shot is on your monk with a thumper for example.

And ofcourse my mez is beatable...also I dont want this to be so general to say that I'm the only dom mez in TA so saying me is kinda weird, but believe me, I've been against several different monks and know a lot of ways around hex breaker. Also those long casts are real easy to interupt...I power leaked heal touch twice in our last fight, in which I was with 3 pugs, when we won.

Oh and he put shame on me in the very beginning before any hexes were out (also he casted it through my diversion).

Run Red Run · Aug 24, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

It's a new build Bra. Gah! Since this is the case, it doesn't fall under their "outplayed" category.

It's ok Sno, we wouldn't want you guys to wrack your brains trying to find a counter to a plain vanilla balanced build...

sno · Aug 24, 2006, 06:14 AM // 06:14

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Originally Posted by Logan Raziel

And I never said any of that was at all a counter to us, but thats what good balanced groups do...if your monk cant cast, then there is no way to remove blind on you war, and if your war cant pressure the mez, your monk wont be casting much at all. Ask about any good balanced group...draw is a must on an off monk, not only to keep wars clean and handle condition degen, but also saving the monk with a quick draw of deep wound, or even to help if a crip shot is on your monk with a thumper for example.

I agree that having draw on the monk is unorthodox, but it synergizes well with the rest of the team, allowing no monk secondaries and more offensive focus. When we run a flashbot we put draw on him, naturally.

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And ofcourse my mez is beatable...also I dont want this to be so general to say that I'm the only dom mez in TA so saying me is kinda weird, but believe me, I've been against several different monks and know a lot of ways around hex breaker. Also those long casts are real easy to interupt...I power leaked heal touch twice in our last fight, in which I was with 3 pugs, when we won.

Luckily for me, Healing Touch isn't an easy interupt for most mesmers. You = mean. There are ways around hex breaker of course, but it does mitigate a lot of your shutdown, and forces you to put more effort on it (and less on expel, if you want to keep me shut down.) The main reason I like b.light in this build is that it allows for a second copy of distortion, which synergizes SO well with all the failures (spirit of failure, price, spirit shackles.) It also allows us to run an offensive elite on the dom, instead of expel.

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Oh and he put shame on me in the very beginning before any hexes were out (also he casted it through my diversion).

Meh, we were outplayed. It happens.