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Performance Pudding · Aug 24, 2007, 05:21 AM // 05:21

if #1 is used than it will become another ha and diversity makes a game better so id have to say 3 or nothing people wont leave if they dont get there way and if they do then all they care about is titles which makes the games other features seem inadequit (i cant spell leave me alone :P )

Bicuspid · Aug 24, 2007, 05:46 AM // 05:46

I would rather remove titles completely from RA than make it a meaningless noob title.

Master Ketsu · Aug 24, 2007, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I Just got back from reading a bunch of GWO posts, and I think i see whats going on here.

The real problem is all the R0/G0's are under some false impression that if they can obtain a pvp title that is considered to hold skill to it, then it will be easier for the "casual gamer" to get into pvp and get into better groups.

They have it backwards. If the glad title is n00bified so that any n00b can get it, then the glad title will be seen as just another n00b title, and all the PvE'rs with their new bright shiny glad 5 title wont find it any easier to get into higher end guilds then it was before...because we ( the pvp community ) will simply stop looking at the glad title as a reflection of personal skill. It will become just another lightbringer.

In the end they will trot their way back to pve farming, and all that will have changed is that competitive 4v4 will be dead.

Democracy doesnt always make right. The majority does not always know whats best for them.

Thomas.knbk · Aug 24, 2007, 06:17 AM // 06:17

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Originally Posted by erk

If they get rolled it will be by people that have quit over and over again to craft a better team. Stop that and you don't get rolled.

Oh wait, so if everyone would just stop leaving, leaving wouldn't be a problem anymore?

How insightful!
How about we just all stop making war too, then war wouldn't be a problem! And how about we just all give half our income to 3rd world countries, then hunger wouldn't be a problem!

Not only are you pre-judging all good teams to consist of leavers, it's also totally irrelevant because playing against a team with a W/Me with IW, a monk with Healing Burst and 16 healing prayers, a Rt/N minion bomber and Me/W with headbutt doesn't make MY team with the stance tank with healing breeze, the N/E flare spammer and R/Mo expertise healer any more fun.

P.S. I don't know watskebeurt with the glad title, but are they really going with #1? I thought HA showed a system like that sucks donkey balls ages ago.

Bicuspid · Aug 24, 2007, 06:28 AM // 06:28

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

I Just got back from reading a bunch of GWO posts, and I think i see whats going on here.

The real problem is all the R0/G0's are under some false impression that if they can obtain a pvp title that is considered to hold skill to it, then it will be easier for the "casual gamer" to get into pvp and get into better groups.

They have it backwards. If the glad title is n00bified so that any n00b can get it, then the glad title will be seen as just another n00b title, and all the PvE'rs with their new bright shiny glad 5 title wont find it any easier to get into higher end guilds then it was before...because we ( the pvp community ) will simply stop looking at the glad title as a reflection of personal skill. It will become just another lightbringer.

In the end they will trot their way back to pve farming, and all that will have changed is that competitive 4v4 will be dead.

Democracy doesnt always make right. The majority does not always know whats best for them.

This is the truth.

If they want to 'fix' RA its simple - just make it so if you leave a team you cant enter for 2 minutes. Thats all you have to do to fix the leaver problem. Then the team with no monk will get rolled and everyone can move on.

FYI the leaver problem isnt even a real problem...out of 200+ glad points I've gotten maybe 2 without a monk. Its just delusional rank 0 minion masters/trappers/stonefleh tanks thinking omfg! i woudl have so many glad points if our no-healer team hadnt had a LEAVER!

Trust me those guys aint missing out.

And yeah pretty much if RA gets to 1 point a win, no matter HOW HIGH the new ranks are, they will mean nothing. You could have 50,000 points to max it, it wouldnt mean a damn thing. No serious PvP guild would care.

Servant of Kali · Aug 24, 2007, 08:43 AM // 08:43

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Originally Posted by Mangione

Many posters seem to fear leeching, but being honest, how many points will leechers get staying in matches 3vs4?

Sigh.

If leechers/afkers appeared in RA, they would often appear on both sides, just as they appear on both sides of Fort Aspenwood. Therefore, there's always some leecher getting full benefit, and some leecher getting at least some benefit for losing. Since RA is smaller than FA, yes, there's less chance of leechers being on both sides, but do I really want to spend 70% of my RA time shuffling until I get a decent team.

Now, let's say you get 1 glad for 1 win. OK. Leechers ahoy. You have two lose-lose situations
1) no leecher in your team but one in enemy team - boring battle. It makes me not play. Every time im against 3 people in RA it's kinda dull (even though sometimes I win 3v4 fights).
2) leecher in your team - meh.

Also, enemy team will probably quit if they have leecher, which means you'll waste 2min of your life for nothing (load times, timeout time etc). Considering that glad title will be utterly useless if 1 win = 1 point, and that the only people playing will be PvErs who need HoMunuments (and leechers).. well yea, I can't quite see glorious future of RA.

Bicuspid · Aug 24, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

well if the team with the leecher has a decent monk, and the team without the leecher has no monk, its about even

DreamWind · Aug 24, 2007, 09:42 AM // 09:42

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