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Master Ketsu · Oct 25, 2007, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

That just shows how big a skill gap there is between a top player playing dom mesmer and you. The very basics of interrupting is to be on one target, see another target's animation, click that target, and interrupt a 1 (or 3/4 second) cast. Many people simply aren't fast or skilled enough to do that. And that's just one facet of the dom mesmer's tricks.

GW is a lot more of a team coordination game, which is why it's harder to observe the individual failures. But when you watch a top 20 fight a rank 1k with mirror builds going 8v8, you'll easily notice individual failures and successes.

I was thinking of the dom messes that dont use interrupts. The ones that do are pretty much = to ranger in terms of skill gap.

Shmanka · Oct 25, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

A simple counterexample to your statement that skill isn't required to be top in GW is the ladder. You see many guilds with records of 700-600 or worse. They've played enough GvGs to be able to compete at a top 100 level, but they're still hanging around the 1000 level. Why? Because those players simply aren't good. Obviously the more time you spend the better you get, but there's a reason why certain players can reach the top more easily than others.

I agree with you divine here but, it doesnt match individual skill. My guild is now 30-5 and I think we suck

IMMORTAlMITCH · Oct 25, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

I was thinking of the dom messes that dont use interrupts. The ones that do are pretty much = to ranger in terms of skill gap.

Dom mesmers that don't use interrupts?

Ensign · Oct 25, 2007, 10:33 PM // 22:33

Mesmer interrupts are pretty different from Ranger interrupts as well, the two don't play in similar fashion at all.

Div · Oct 25, 2007, 10:35 PM // 22:35

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Originally Posted by Shmanka

I agree with you divine here but, it doesnt match individual skill. My guild is now 30-5 and I think we suck

I suppose by skill, I should talk about both individual skill that's developed (better at preprot, interrupts, pressuring, etc.) as well as team coordination skill. You guys are definitely top 100-200 quality easy if you guys just play more games together and get used to each other's styles.

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

I was thinking of the dom messes that dont use interrupts. The ones that do are pretty much = to ranger in terms of skill gap.

Mesmers are not like rangers in terms of interrupting, even though both use interrupts. And what kind of dom bar doesn't have an interrupt >.<

Master Ketsu · Oct 25, 2007, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Mesmers = Rangers in terms of skill gap when it comes to interrupting. Not the way they interrupt.

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And what kind of dom bar doesn't have an interrupt >.<

I was temporariliy thinking of one Ive seen in TA that worked ok, but for the most part their is no Dom bar without one that I would run.

twicky_kid · Oct 26, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Mesmers = Rangers in terms of skill gap when it comes to interrupting. Not the way they interrupt.

I was thinking in more of the lines it has to do more with your reaction time and game ping than skill.

Skill is knowing what to interrupt when not the ability to actually execute an interrupt.

Master Ketsu · Oct 26, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

I was thinking in more of the lines it has to do more with your reaction time and game ping than skill.

Skill is knowing what to interrupt when not the ability to actually execute an interrupt.

interruption skill is both the ability to interrupt and knowing what to interrupt...

what im saying means that it takes hust as much skill to run Int mes as Int ranger. They play differently, but its fairly the same difficulty wise.

twicky_kid · Oct 26, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

interruption skill is both the ability to interrupt and knowing what to interrupt...

what im saying means that it takes hust as much skill to run Int mes as Int ranger. They play differently, but its fairly the same difficulty wise.

Lets agree to disagree and move on.

Master Ketsu · Oct 26, 2007, 01:31 AM // 01:31

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

Lets agree to disagree and move on.

thats probobly best. How difficult something is is too far up to opinion.

Yue · Oct 26, 2007, 03:13 AM // 03:13

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

interruption skill is both the ability to interrupt and knowing what to interrupt...

what im saying means that it takes hust as much skill to run Int mes as Int ranger. They play differently, but its fairly the same difficulty wise.

It's pretty different. You might not think so, but people who have either actually played both competently or have enough experience in high level play realize there's a large difference in mesmer/ranger interrupting.

And using TA as an example for anything when talking about game balance is retarded. Don't do it.

Master Ketsu · Oct 26, 2007, 04:18 AM // 04:18

For the 4th time people, I am not saying mesmers play like rangers.

lern 2 reed gudder yes ?

Seamus Finn · Oct 26, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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Originally Posted by Master Ketsu

Mesmers = Rangers in terms of skill gap when it comes to interrupting.

Honestly you are just too focused on interruping = the true skill of GW. I would say that characters like eles have the greatest gap in skill because most players don't notice the difference between a good ele and a bad one an similarly don't recognize why their team isn't top tier.