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Old Jan 13, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #1
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So I'm in AB about 20 minutes ago on Grenz (AGAIN), and I noticed a very odd lack of professions other than Ranger or Assassin. It seemed every where I went I was being ganged up on by two or three assassins or being pelted to death with arrows. Now normally, it isn't uncommon to see a few Sins running around but they were EVERYWHERE.

So after it became obvious that my team had no chance in hell of winning, I decided to see what all we had on the opposing team. This is what the Kurzick team consisted of.

A/W -Some Falling Spider, Horns of the Ox wiki build
A/W -Some Falling Spider, Horns of the Ox wiki build
A/W -Some Falling Spider, Horns of the Ox wiki build
A/R -Some weird Dancing Dagger Build
A/Mo -Shadow Prison or something like it
A/Mo -A smiting signet something out of left field weirdo build
R/Mo -Burning Arrow
R/Mo -Burning Arrow
R/Mo -Burning Arrow
R/Mo -Cripshot
N/Me -Insidious SS
E/D -Mystical Regeneration Fire Nuker


The meta-game has officially become as stale as 10 week old bread. These flavor of the month wiki build are KILLING Ab. Your only option is to run the same thing or a counter to whats already being run, less you be like me and be the only Mesmer on the entire map trying to fend off 2, 3 even 4 sins at a time. Fat chance right? The sad thing is, I don't even like Mesmer, I was just sick of playing Sin, Ranger and Ele all the time, which seems to be the only things that last for more than 30 seconds without being shit on by some wiki build that half the people in the instance are running.

I think it's time ANet nerfed these shitty wiki builds. Just go onto the wiki, find every excellent build and nerf the crap out of it. Then find all the skills that haven't been used in a year and a half and buff the living daylights out of them. Force these people to make their own new build rather than copy and pasting a wiki template and then going to AB.


Another question I have is, what the hell is up with the map being in Kurzick territory nearly 100% of the time? We've been in Grenz or Ancestral Lands every day this week except for Wednesday when we were on Entaren for about 3 hours, at which point we went back to Saltspray and then back to Grenz. I'm not entirly sure what determines the map rotation but it is seriously flawed. If it's on a timer, that timer is f'ing broke. If it goes by whichever side is winning, the Kurzicks must really suck because with the teams I've seen on the Luxon side, a group of blind, mute retarded 12 year olds with down syndrome could play a better game half the time.


Either way, sorry for rant, just frustrated to the tenth degree. I need to stop Abing, but it's the only PvP I somewhat enjoy, which as you can tell, is not very often.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08   #2
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The moment they start making major skill balances off of AB is the moment that everyone left in GW quits.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09   #3
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Damn, and Moko just posted that sticky. There goes half my post. Anyways, skill balances should not focus around ab. Even if it did, chances are that you lost because the rest of your team was terribad, and whatever the kurz ran was only slightly better. Such is the nature of ab.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #4
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There are always going to be several strong builds. People run cookie-cutter builds because they work. AB needs less of a balance than anywhere, really, since the players are so bad you can get away with running whatever fun thing you could possibly want.

Mesmers are weak in AB because they lack red-bar-go-up that doesn't blow. Warriors that plan on killing anything without dying themselves need some support. Pretty much everything else is viable.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #5
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Play something weird then. That's what AB is for.

I play mesmer all the time in GvG, so I love going to AB with my crip shot or monk.

Sometimes common templates are just fun to play. But if you aren't in that same boat, then make up some random build and play it.

Try not to take it so serious, considering its...not and stuff.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22   #6
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If really almost everyone like you claim is running this .. then might dont you just take an advantage of it ...get a team with a little specialisation against those builds... should make your whole team lethal aye ? ;p
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:24 AM // 04:24   #7
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I agree. Flashbot + Mirage Cloak = lol?
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #8
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Take some time and find or put together a decent group and you wouldn't have this problem and you'd probably enjoy things much more. The number of sins has decreased since the SP and asscaster nerfs so you shouldn't complain too much now. Try to find some like minded people that fit well with your play style on your friend's list.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 04:55 AM // 04:55   #9
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So a 12 man team, consisting of half (6) assassins, was killing people? Since Duh is probably not an accepted response, I'll just say that people whined about touchers back in the day too, until they figured out the only handicap was in their head.
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Old Jan 13, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04   #10
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If you have concrete suggestions, go post in skill balance thread in the main section of gladiator's arena. Crying about how bad your team is and how good the other team is using wiki builds goes nowhere. All the good suggestions about how to make your AB experience more pleasant is already given. Now I will use my ninja powers and make this rant of a thread go pew pew.
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