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elektra_lucia · Jan 03, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Really late at night... Why is it nub hour? Makes no sense... So, it's known for not so good groups and such, but think about it...

Nerdy type people (don't be offended, I love going to sleep at 8AM) generally spend a lot of time on the computer. So they're experience in whatever...

They stay up late... So why aren't the groups better? No joke, maybe it's something glaringly obvious. =o.

Tyla · Jan 03, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Might be tired

Always been wondering myself but...i just think to myself that they must be tired.

Kissable Krissy · Jan 03, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

LOL considering the large number of r9+s that play at "nub hour," I woudn't say it is really nub hour. More so that there aren't many people playing at that time and you get a lot of good skips to hoh and you get 1v1 hoh matches.

Div · Jan 03, 2008, 02:43 AM // 02:43

Because there are less teams playing in general, and one good team can expect more 1v1's in halls, making it easier for them to hold rather than getting ganked out. The average quality of teams would still be fairly similar I'd say, just less teams.

elektra_lucia · Jan 03, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

The quality definitely seems lower to me when I have stayed up late. You have played at both nub hour and normal hour, or? Not sarcasm just wondered.

Kissable Krissy · Jan 03, 2008, 02:50 AM // 02:50

I play both. I've seen pretty nub teams at all hours of the day.

Sha Noran · Jan 03, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

It's not that the pros are sleeping, it's that they generally can't find a full competent group of eight. The one group that manages to fill out all 8 slots usually nabs the ONLY of something online at the moment (frontline, spike caller, monk, etc. etc.), and then they go and hold for an hour+. Many good players see that so and so famous player is holding and decide that it's not worth all the effort of making a new team when so and so is already holding, and thus, nub hour.

Lews · Jan 03, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

Because nobody who's good plays anymore.

wuzzman · Jan 03, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

late at night is noob hour...I challenge any of those teams to make it past UW during prime hours.

elektra_lucia · Jan 03, 2008, 05:28 PM // 17:28

When you guys post, do you just read the topic title and not the thread or first post of thread?

6am3 Fana71c · Jan 03, 2008, 07:03 PM // 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

Really late at night... Why is it nub hour? Makes no sense... So, it's known for not so good groups and such, but think about it...

I am a noob. You can confirm. I got to Halls twice, both times it was late at night, and I think we got halls skip (due to lack of teams in that time of day) >> hence >> it's a noob hour.

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Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

(don't be offended, I love going to sleep at 8AM)

Going to sleep when sun rises is pure win <3

makosi · Jan 03, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by elektra_lucia

Really late at night... Why is it nub hour? Makes no sense... So, it's known for not so good groups and such, but think about it...

Nerdy type people (don't be offended, I love going to sleep at 8AM) generally spend a lot of time on the computer. So they're experience in whatever...

They stay up late... So why aren't the groups better? No joke, maybe it's something glaringly obvious. =o.

Because really late (for us GMT folk) is when the Americans get home from school/work and eat their tea. Then they log on to GW and voilà! noob hour!

Meh, it's a theory. No offence intended.

Chokutou Reiki · Jan 03, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Because the Aussies are playing and we all know they are baed at the game! ..Well, maybe.. :]

Horace The Great · Jan 03, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Well, most people call noob hour early in the day.
I don't think there are noob hours though, in some hours there are just fewer people playing, so also lesser good groups.

zOmg.Its.Alex · Jan 04, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Heard Rebirth was the meta at this time.

Monk Gsb · Jan 04, 2008, 04:11 AM // 04:11

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Originally Posted by zOmg.Its.Alex

Heard Rebirth was the meta at this time.

xD that make me laugh quite hard.

noob hour = more skips = more nooby teams that woudent normaly make it to halls = eaisier holding

Martin Alvito · Jan 04, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

The importance of having the same people do the same jobs night after night after night cannot be overstated. During nub hour, most of the teams that nightly have the same caller and (mostly) the same roster are no longer playing. What's left are teams assembled from available players on friends lists.

Most of the time, the resulting groups have players in slots they know how to play but don't play consistently, and also are comprised of tired people that are playing after their regularly-scheduled GvG or HA (where they had to focus a lot harder). This leads to lower observed play skill in even the highly-ranked groups.

On top of this, there are fewer teams playing. This increases the probability of a bad team making it up to higher maps via win streak (repeatedly drawing and beating other bad teams) or by skipping up to maps they have no business playing on. Sometimes, bad teams even get lucky in halls at this hour. A good team can easily lose to a pair of nub teams that cooperate, and the modern win conditions give bad teams a much more level playing field than they had in the old altar capping days (when a couple of good players in the right slots could beat two bad opposing teams).

Note that when two good teams are in halls with a bad team, one of the good teams usually wins. It pretty much takes two bad teams (or three) in a halls match to yield the result of noobs holding halls. During late night play, bad teams just get further in the map sequence, making them eligible to skip up.

masta_yoda · Jan 04, 2008, 01:14 PM // 13:14

well maybe the so called "nerds" do go to sleep

Elrodien · Jan 04, 2008, 01:22 PM // 13:22

nub hour in HA is 24/7

Llint · Jan 05, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

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Originally Posted by Elrodien

nub hour in HA is 24/7

u r a winnar in this thread.

On a related note - when I pug, I don't take HA serious enough to notice. When I am in a realer group, we usually don't care so we just roll whatever since fame is - oh wait