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Old Mar 19, 2008, 12:51 PM // 12:51   #1
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hey,

i was playing ha the other day and we came up against 1 ballenced, 1 A/d -2glass arrows -2 iv - just add more random spike skills here pl0x. and the rest was just lameway meta 3 R/d 2 trappers 1 rit/mes 2 N/rits, and i thought how easy it would be to farm all of the r3/6+ lameways if you had a build to do it.

so i decided to find out what the key components to a lameway is:




mass conditions, mass spirts, mass melee and rend touch,

so in my build i have tried to address all of the said above items, so here i go:



Player 1: Dervish/Ranger 12 scythe+1, 11+1+1 myst, rest into wildie.

- Apply Poison
- Avatar of Balthazar {E}
- Eremite's Attack
- Wearying Strike
- Crippling Sweep
- Heart of Fury
- Imbue Health
- Resurrection Signet

Player 2: Mesmer/Ritualist 12+1+1 illusion, 6 dom, 9 insp, rest into fast cast.

- Migraine {E}
- Frustration
- Cry of Frustration
- Power Spike
- Power Drain
- Hex Breaker
- Inspired Enchantment
- Flesh of My Flesh

Player 3: Mesmer/Paragon 12+1+1 illusion, 8 command, 6 dom, as much in insp as you can, rest into fc

- Migraine {E}
- Frustration
- Power Spike
- Leech Signet
- Power Drain
- Inspired Enchantment
- "Make Haste!"
- Song of Concentration

Player 4: Necromancer/Elementalist 12+1+1 death, 8 earth, 10 soul

- Tainted Flesh {E}
- Rotting Flesh
- Withering Aura
- Putrid Bile
- Glyph of Lesser Energy
- Ward Against Foes
- Grasping Earth
- Resurrection Signet

Player 5: Necromancer/Monk 12+1+1 curses, 9 prot, 9+1 soul

- Reckless Haste
- Suffering
- Malaise
- Plague Sending
- Martyr {E}
- Well of Weariness
- Aegis
- Resurrection Signet

Player 6: Ritualist/Monk communing 8+1+1, Spawning 8+1, 9 restor, 10 smiting

- Dulled Weapon
- Scourge Healing
- Scourge Enchantment
- Consume Soul {E}
- Castigation Signet
- Life
- Strength of Honor
- Death Pact Signet

Player 7: Monk/Mesmer 12+1+1 prot, 11 divine, rest in insp

- Shield of Deflection {E}
- Spirit Bond
- Guardian
- Shield of Absorption
- Dismiss Condition
- Aura of Stability
- Holy Veil
- Channeling

Player 8: Monk/Mesmer 12+1+1 healing, 11 divine, rest in insp

- Patient Spirit
- Infuse Health
- Heal Party
- Dwayna's Kiss
- Dismiss Condition
- Holy Veil
- Channeling
- Healer's Boon {E}

baisically withering aura on the dervish and him going around pressureing the N/rits with 2 conditions per attack (with a DW for added pressure /kills) the conusme soul just baisically runs around and kills all the spirits ( for a v.nice party heal ) if your monks get smoke trapped or any sort of traps thats where the martyr and plague sending comes into play.

the N/rits wont be able to heal due to no spirts and migrane+cover.
the R/D's wont be able to critical hit due to dulled wepon (also good VS A/D critical eye type thingys) and they will be shut down due to reckless haste coverd by suffering.
the team will be degening fast due to tainted + apply and hex's, pluss the added pressure of there own conditions from martyr + plague sending.

please dont post here if you just want to flame me or my builds or just to say "LOL APPLY ON A DERVISH YOUR A N00B !!!1!!!" or " ZOMG MARTYR LOLZORD !!!!1"
if you want to say somthing just tell me the bad parts of the build AND how i can improve on them.

thoughts please
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 01:18 PM // 13:18   #2
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Interresting but i think you forgot stuff :

- in your team, there is only week armors (i mean no 80 or bonus), thus the 3R/D can easily pwn you (you only have a guardian and SoD ~~), even if you carry wreckless haste (expel is very usefull ^^)

- Consume Soul will kill spirits, thus giving back mana to N/Rt, and this elite gets useless agaisnt any other team

- Same statement for Martyre, elite spell for only one kind of team ~~


Nice idea, but this team may only work against those kind of team (R/D stuff), and you will suffer against some random balanced.

Anyway, gj !
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #3
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Interresting but i think you forgot stuff :

- in your team, there is only week armors (i mean no 80 or bonus), thus the 3R/D can easily pwn you (you only have a guardian and SoD ~~), even if you carry wreckless haste (expel is very usefull ^^)

- Consume Soul will kill spirits, thus giving back mana to N/Rt, and this elite gets useless agaisnt any other team

- Same statement for Martyre, elite spell for only one kind of team ~~
1. dervish = not 80 armour ?

2 migrainers = n/rits ( or 1 n/rit and the rit/mes ) shut down permenantly. and
"For each point of Soul Reaping, you gain 1 Energy whenever a non-Spirit creature near you dies. You may only gain Energy in this way 3 times every 15 seconds. "
read the bold text http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Soul_reaping.

3: martyr is good against cons pressure thumpway, R/D, any other team with trappers, sf way ect.

4: if your the expell and you have migrane on you, and your N/rit calls also he has migrane on him and is getting shut down, then your R/D call that they have reckless haste coverd 1-3 times, who are you going to expell ??

even with arcane echo you wont be able to get everything
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44   #4
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Interesting, though I'm not sure if you actually have enough straight damage do kill things. You also seem to be relying a bit on the other team not being able to disrupt you, which always turns out bad when things don't go your way. Other than that:

Is martyr that much better than something like foul feast? Is it enough to warrant taking up the elite slot?

I really hate consume soul on that rit who is otherwise kind of interesting. I'd suggest putting in something like OoS to power out more hexes and replacing castigation signet with perhaps judge's insight.

Apply is almost never good on a melee character. I'd strongly suggest dropping that.
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16   #5
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So what you're saying is we should all, instead of running one gimmick, run the other one. (Migraine)

I can hardly see how this solves anything... It's NICE to farm R/D way, however, I doubt it'll even kill it. BUT any real migraine team (The actuall gimmick) will beat you...

Anyways, I gues you COULD (stress) beat Shitway, however, chances are still realistic they'll run over you AND legoway,... will beat you prety easy...
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Old Mar 19, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26   #6
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killed u man, read this part of my post:

please dont post here if you just want to flame me or my builds or just to say "LOL APPLY ON A DERVISH YOUR A N00B !!!1!!!" or " ZOMG MARTYR LOLZORD !!!!1"
if you want to say somthing just tell me the bad parts of the build AND how i can improve on them.

yea i suppose i could use foul feast over ageis and SS for Martyr
and drop the castigation for judges and conume for oos, but unless the derv goes spirt hunting ( reduces pressure off the backline ) and the rit would then have more of a use vs other teams. thanks for your commnets and,
unless kill u man, have somthing nice or constructive to say RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO off out of my thread kthxdie
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Old Mar 20, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #7
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it doesn't take a genius to figure out your build fails. The very fact that you had to make an entire build to counter escapeway when all you need is a wand + shield, already tells me it fails regardless.
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Old Mar 20, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #8
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it doesn't take a genius to figure out your build fails. The very fact that you had to make an entire build to counter escapeway when all you need is a wand + shield, already tells me it fails regardless.
wow dood your so kool thx 4 ur time posting that now lets go troll some whr else.................


in other words. die.
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Old Mar 20, 2008, 01:56 PM // 13:56   #9
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if you want to run something that fails. By all means be my guess. If you expecting to get any respect for posting a stupid build then you really shouldn't be on the internet.
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Old Mar 20, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04   #10
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If you want to fail by all means be my guest. If you are expecting to get any respect for posting a stupid post that is stupid then you really shouldn't be in this thread.

(My grammar is also better than yours therefore i win).
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Old Mar 20, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08   #11
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Lmao @ the AoB bar.

As if AoB isn't already bad, that would offend even AB'ers who run AoB.
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Old Mar 21, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14   #12
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if you want to say somthing just tell me the bad parts of the build AND how i can improve on them.
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BUT any real migraine team (The actuall gimmick) will beat you...
I gues I should have been more clear, cuz you obviously didn't get the *hint hint*...

RUN MIGRAINE INSTEAD... ALL your build is, is a REALLY crappy version of Hexway... You want advice, take some hard:
-> Take out the Rit, the bar makes my eyes hurt
-> Put in a SF ele with WoW and/or Life and Kaolei...
-> Take out that Dervish, there is no point in making fun of Dervishes like that
-> Put in a: /startlist
*Shattering Assault Sin
*InstaGib Sin
*ANY DERVISH other than your bar (JK, any Dervish bar that sees use in HA/GvG will do)
*Shock/Axe
*Cripslash
*ANY warrior build that applies pressure
*ANY ranger build with interrupts + apply poison
*ANY bar that wasn't as horid as your dervish
And some final bit of advice...
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in other words. die.
...Take your pil... Daily...

Peace out and go with christ x/ (Smooth, eh?)
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