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Old Apr 25, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54   #41
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wanna do something about sway?
make a teambuild that counters it
We are in the presence of a genius
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 07:26 PM // 19:26   #42
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I'm afraid your wrong...Borat isnt here,,,
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34   #43
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wanna do something about sway?
make a teambuild that counters it
Because build wars is gud mirite?

Either way, Sway being moderately difficult to beat, it still deserves a nerf because it's so degenerate, and boring to play against.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 09:00 PM // 21:00   #44
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Because of Sway I can form an unranked pug in HA in less than 20 mins and still have a chance at getting fame. So unless you stop making r10+ group which 5 out of the 200 people there may be able to get into and maybe help a newb so they know how to play balanced you're just making it worse.
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Old Apr 25, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42   #45
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I dont think nobody really wants low level meta builds that new people can play to go away, but what people want is for builds that require more skill and coordination to run to be viable.

Since there is only ONE meta pug build, which can work decently against any setup if they dont know what they are doing ahead of time, then it makes it harder for those other builds to be viable.

As a result, people stick to tried and tested builds, A/D spike, ranger spike, hexes, legoway, bloodspike, whatever. Because they know they work against sway, so they know they can win fame.
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Old Apr 26, 2008, 11:40 AM // 11:40   #46
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And since sway is the most common build on the first maps it's almost a guarantee to get free fame. The newbs farm newbs with sway and 99% of the sways gets farmed by the pro's. Which will never change the pro's thoughts to bring a sway noob into their party because he played a good R/D... lol.
They can keep the sways like they are now. Compared with bunny-way with spiritspam the sways are extreme relaxing to farm. Against most you don't even need channeling, I just don't cast it.

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Old Apr 29, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26   #47
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Sway ain't a thing. The great thing is you know a large population of people use it and well use something to counter it.
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Old Apr 29, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11   #48
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I love sway....dont take it away !!!
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Old May 01, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39   #49
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i've beaten an sway in HA with a heroway team
gogogo heroway
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Old May 02, 2008, 12:33 PM // 12:33   #50
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i've beaten an sway in HA with a heroway team
gogogo heroway
I've beaten sways with randomways. In fact I don't believe I ever lost to sway. Sway being a crap build, though correct, is not the point of this thread.
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Old May 02, 2008, 06:07 PM // 18:07   #51
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Stop QQing about rank discrimanation. I got into r10+ groups at r3 because I talked to people, I asked if they'd give me a chance, and I proved I was a good infuser. If more people would form balanced or rspike or w/e besides sway at a low rank maybe Build wars, I mean, Guild wars would be somewhat better.

Sway is neither hard to run, or hard to beat, but it makes you incapable of handing past Fetid once you grind your way till a high enough rank to get semi decent pugs. Sway isn't that big of a problem imo either. :\ Those who grind, grind.
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Old May 02, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19   #52
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The OP was not saying he had problems facing it, but the mere fact it's boring. It's like playing the same map over and over, vs the same opponent over and over, in counter strike or something...

The only difference is - they might actually improve o.o. I don't think there's a reason to play HA other than for fame. It's boring :] and everyone is baed.

As for rank discrimination, I think I disproved any argument there in an older thread.

And if you haven't worked out how to get around rank discrimination or you've just started HA. Then do yourself a favour... Hit M :].
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