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Old Jun 21, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #21
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I think pretty much everyone on this board wants to see the issue of instagib scythes addressed. If there really isn't a problem with wounding strike and chilling victory, knock eviscerate and executioners down to 4 adrenaline and give warriors an IAS with no penalty that causes burning when it ends...should fly real well.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07   #22
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I think it's obvious now the developers just want to move on to GW 2 instead of repairing GW 1. At least I hope that's the case, because if they're actually trying to balance the game at the moment then I fear the worst for GW 2.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10   #23
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I think pretty much everyone on this board wants to see the issue of instagib scythes addressed. If there really isn't a problem with wounding strike and chilling victory, knock eviscerate and executioners down to 4 adrenaline and give warriors an IAS with no penalty that causes burning when it ends...should fly real well.
Give it the AoC combat treatment, whenever your weapon "collides" with someone they get hit.

AoE hammer/sword/axe, anyone?
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58   #24
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Since NF we haven't really been balancing anything, we have just been overpowering more skills to counter other already overpowered skills. The few token nerfs have almost always missed the point and been inconsequential. But what can you expect, every PvPer already bought all 3 campaigns + expansion. Anet can't get any more money out of us and therefore has no incentive to serve us.

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 02:00 AM // 02:00   #25
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I will quickly state where this thread should be going:

STOP BEING SO GODDAMN LAZY AND ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS SHITTY GAME BEFORE WE HAVE A LYNCHPARTY

YESH PLEASH

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Old Jun 21, 2008, 02:24 AM // 02:24   #26
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I agree, Zen used dervsmite to get to r367, then switched up to modded balanced to actually IMPROVE the skill level of our players, but after fighting Dervsmites and sin-splits constantly it kinda killed our morale for GvGing. We are still going to use Balance though...even though it makes it much more difficult with this current metashift.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33   #27
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I wonder what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO anet does all day (those not working on gw 2). I mean, the monthly game of darts can't take any longer than two days. Why the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO can't they get their RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing asses in gear and do something. They have a balance team for a RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing reason.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55   #28
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Sounds kinda funny. "Yeah I abused this skill to shit in order to profit for my own benefit, getting FoW armor, chaos gloves, rare weps, etc... and now that I have everything I ever wanted, I think it's time we did something about this skill." Yeah, that seems fair.
Similar to using Dervsmite in GvG while saying that something should be done about it, right?

There's no reason why you shouldn't use it.

Your pride won't save you when you've lost/can't achieve the same as others because you refuse to use it.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 03:09 AM // 03:09   #29
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GJ Divine. I /agree with you on all posts as we've ranted about many times. WTB Ensign back
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #30
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Similar to using Dervsmite in GvG while saying that something should be done about it, right?

There's no reason why you shouldn't use it.

Your pride won't save you when you've lost/can't achieve the same as others because you refuse to use it.
i guess more important point is that by using it you learn its weakness
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #31
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Similar to using Dervsmite in GvG while saying that something should be done about it, right?

There's no reason why you shouldn't use it.

Your pride won't save you when you've lost/can't achieve the same as others because you refuse to use it.
I don't refuse to use it. I love using my A/E to farm UW at any chance I get (I want me another set of chaos gloves ) and imo, I don't think we should be complaining, because the majority, believe it or not, are happy at all this new wealth they have just come upon. And as for the ecto ruining the economy...it's 5.5k at trader, so we should all be happy. Sure some things are broken, some PVE, some PVP, but what can we do? If dervsmite is so OP, let's abuse it, same goes for ursan and all the other PVE skills. Just use and have fun
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 03:56 AM // 03:56   #32
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winter took 3 years to fix
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 05:09 AM // 05:09   #33
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Why is there so much patronizing in this thread?
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 06:45 AM // 06:45   #34
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Gotta agree with Wounding Strike. I run a critical sin in pve and sometimes pvp and dishing out 100 damage + deep wound + bleeding every 3 seconds on 3 creatures is kinda... Imbalanced. I mean, I can outdamage elementalist on Normal Mode or in pvp Oo.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 06:50 AM // 06:50   #35
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Now with the PvE/PvP split Anet could have just nerfed the problem skills to oblivion. Well, they didn't.

So /agree on the title.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58   #36
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Still pondering why this thread is even here. We've known for a long time Anet doesn't care about the game, pretty much just beating a dead horse into the ground, with a bonus flame war.

Thats from our point of view as players, of course. I think the entire community needs to get off they're high horses and accept that maybe they dont know if Anet cares or not. Sure, from where we stand it sure as hell looks like it, but I for one have never run a globally successful game with millions of users before and thus forth have no idea what it takes to "care" about it.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 06:58 AM // 06:58   #37
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Seriously. I won't even bother arguing about what build is OP or what skills are OP. But when the skills are clearly bugged, and they don't get fixed, it makes gameplay completely retarded.

For example, chilling victory's extra damage trigger.

Also, the fast recharge on MoI even when the signet is interrupted.

Or the promised non conjure+SoH stacking?

The dervsmite is already borderline on being OP but I won't go there. Having these bugs really push it over the edge.

This game is shit not only because no one cares anymore and there is barely any high level competition, but because simple bugs take 2+ years to get fixed (even if it eventually gets done, like I think with the chilling now), and players lose faith in Anet's ability to get the most basic things done.

But seriously, ask yourself, is it that much to get simple bugs fixed? I don't even care about the DF honor vs rawrfortress debate. I just want to play a competitive game where people aren't abusing bugs here and there. Is it too much to ask now? Or should I just follow everyone else and finally give up on the game.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg on the list of broken/bugged things.
divine, it is ok to give up and quit =).
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 07:42 AM // 07:42   #38
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You forgot to mention how people still get stuck in the Uncharted Isle doors, over a year after release.

You forgot to mention how they didn't test any fraction of Nightfall.

You forgot to mention how choking gas goes through blind, blurred, blocks, and even obstructions.

The game doesn't suck because anet doesn't care. It sucks because they are all epic failures, especially izzy.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 07:44 AM // 07:44   #39
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WTB Ensign back
Also where can i buy my pitchfork and lynchmob tickets for the riot?

I really hope izzy comments for the guru cup so someone can phone in and call him out on game balance.
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Old Jun 21, 2008, 09:50 AM // 09:50   #40
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To a very great extent, my desire to play GW2 is predicated on Arena-Net's maintenance and improvement of GW1. If they don't fix the plethora of comparatively simple balance issues that plague every format, then I don't care to purchase a sequel product. They don't understand that I'm not ready for a sequel. I just want to enjoy this in an unbroken form. I could play this for another year easily if they just fixed everything, which may be the reason they're pushing so hard for GW2...
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