Curse

NecroticChanter · Dec 01, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Hi, I've seen more and more Me/Rt heroes in HA. They use Tease as a elite and several other interrupts. They also use restoration spells as well such as PwK, Soothing Memories, Weapon of Warding, and DP signet. I was surprised to see that these heroes were actually quite good. They seem to know who to interrupt and still heal when needed. Sometimes, I see 2 of these and an RC and no other monks. IF you have the build and don't mind sharing it, can you please post it? Thanks.

Gift3d · Dec 01, 2008, 02:00 AM // 02:00

[tease][power drain][cry of frustration][diversion][weapon of warding][weapon of shadow][flesh of my flesh]

and usually protective was kaolai i guess

edit: or you cooooooould mean the more popular 2x rt/me that's usually ran with only one monk, but i'm not familiar with those bars.

Mr Emu · Dec 01, 2008, 02:58 AM // 02:58

[tease][power drain][drain enchantment][blind was mingson][protective was kaolai][weapon of warding][weapon of shadow][death pact signet]

Killed u man · Dec 01, 2008, 09:29 AM // 09:29

[build prof=Mesmer/Ritualist][Tease][Power Drain][Soothing Memories][Protective Was Kaolai][Weapon of Warding][Weapon of Shadow][No Skill][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Pact can also be Rez Signet or Flesh of My Flesh.

Free skill can be ANY effective Hero skill:

[Life]
[Cry of Frustration]
[Drain Enchant]
[Leech Signet]
[Signet Of Humility] (Does wonders vs RC)
...

There is 2 reasons why it's overpowered.
First is the build: Rit heals are overpowered. (Spirit Light is a non elite WoH), Weapons unremoveable "stay alive" skills.
Second is the Hero AI: Heroes tend to use Weapon of Shadow AND Weapon of Warding BEFORE you even hit them. I've tested and observed this often, by simply TARGETTING someomone and pressing spacebar (not even hitting them, as a warrior for example, when you're still running up), they will get a Weapon of Warding/Shadow before you even hit them.
These heroes are known to use Weapon of Shadow on an ally, on their own offcorse, BEFORE the first arrow hits from an Rspike.

The Arching Healer · Dec 01, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

Second is the Hero AI: Heroes tend to use Weapon of Shadow AND Weapon of Warding BEFORE you even hit them. I've tested and observed this often, by simply TARGETTING someomone and pressing spacebar (not even hitting them, as a warrior for example, when you're still running up), they will get a Weapon of Warding/Shadow before you even hit them.
These heroes are known to use Weapon of Shadow on an ally, on their own offcorse, BEFORE the first arrow hits from an Rspike.

Same goes for shield bash, in HB if you just select the mo/w he will use shield bash 9/10 times immediatly. Good players have it disabled but ye

NecroticChanter · Dec 01, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

[build prof=Mesmer/Ritualist][Tease][Power Drain][Soothing Memories][Protective Was Kaolai][Weapon of Warding][Weapon of Shadow][No Skill][Death Pact Signet][/build]

Pact can also be Rez Signet or Flesh of My Flesh.

Free skill can be ANY effective Hero skill:

[Life]
[Cry of Frustration]
[Drain Enchant]
[Leech Signet]
[Signet Of Humility] (Does wonders vs RC)
...

There is 2 reasons why it's overpowered.
First is the build: Rit heals are overpowered. (Spirit Light is a non elite WoH), Weapons unremoveable "stay alive" skills.
Second is the Hero AI: Heroes tend to use Weapon of Shadow AND Weapon of Warding BEFORE you even hit them. I've tested and observed this often, by simply TARGETTING someomone and pressing spacebar (not even hitting them, as a warrior for example, when you're still running up), they will get a Weapon of Warding/Shadow before you even hit them.
These heroes are known to use Weapon of Shadow on an ally, on their own offcorse, BEFORE the first arrow hits from an Rspike.

Ty Killed U Man and Arching Healer. This looks like da build

I will try it on my heroes now.

Ciric · Dec 04, 2008, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Killed u man

First is the build: Rit heals are overpowered. (Spirit Light is a non elite WoH), Weapons unremoveable "stay alive" skills.

[Spirit Light @ 12] or [Spirit Light @ 14] = [Word Of Healing @ 14] ????

A 1 sec cast 156 (172 if your on a rt primary) heal with life sac = a 3/4 216 + DF heal????

Not to mention the fact that WoH has 1 sec less recharge... oh and GL spamming SL with all the fire eles in HA, sacing 17% is gud...

Me/Rt Tease bots are annoying at best, but far from OP lol, all they require you to do is do a different form of calling, instead of faking out by running to a target, you actually have to hit the target then swap for ur spike... though we're assuming you fake out... and considering 99% of halls wars don't fake at all (or do it so poorly you can't tell) that is the problem. Also, we're assuming ur running a balanced spike build, the Me/Rt do absolutely nothing to any form of pressure build assuming your wars are good and know how to count warding and trick heros into using them. The only thing the Tease bots are really really good against is r-spike... and why do you care if something is OP against r-spike.

TogoTheTiger · Dec 05, 2008, 08:15 PM // 20:15

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Originally Posted by Ciric

Me/Rt Tease bots are annoying at best, but far from OP lol, all they require you to do is do a different form of calling, instead of faking out by running to a target, you actually have to hit the target then swap for ur spike... though we're assuming you fake out... and considering 99% of halls wars don't fake at all (or do it so poorly you can't tell) that is the problem. Also, we're assuming ur running a balanced spike build, the Me/Rt do absolutely nothing to any form of pressure build assuming your wars are good and know how to count warding and trick heros into using them. The only thing the Tease bots are really really good against is r-spike... and why do you care if something is OP against r-spike.

A few problems with this. Teams with these also have prot monks. If these monks are good they will count adren and know when to prot, therefore simply hitting a target isn't good enough, second; these Me/Rt's have the best reaction time in the game, so when locked on any character they can consistantly interupt(this being anything from SH to Channeling) without missing, and third; when locked on a X/P or P/X during a KotH map, they will interupt song with either of their interupts because eles won't use other skills while building song. They are not unbeat-able, but slightly annoying to all teams.

Ciric · Dec 06, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by TogoTheTiger

A few problems with this. Teams with these also have prot monks. If these monks are good they will count adren and know when to prot, therefore simply hitting a target isn't good enough, second; these Me/Rt's have the best reaction time in the game, so when locked on any character they can consistantly interupt(this being anything from SH to Channeling) without missing, and third; when locked on a X/P or P/X during a KotH map, they will interupt song with either of their interupts because eles won't use other skills while building song. They are not unbeat-able, but slightly annoying to all teams.

The point of hitting the target is to fake out prots and the weapons because u swap to your real target after 1 swing

tada u out fake prot monks and Tease bots.

legendary4321 · Dec 13, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13

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When I do randomway, I take this as my Me/Rt along with a taint N/Rt to help me with healing just incase I don't get another monk. I set her on a char I want her to sit on(usualy mes,if they have one) and just gogo.