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Old Dec 14, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23   #101
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palm strike ohnoez 4r touch with crip... cripshot is 2r, ranged and (also)unblockable.
Cripshot is affected by Blind, oh, and I missed the part in Cripshot's description where it automatically does 80+ damage... oh wait, that's right, IT DOESN'T EXIST! Cripshot also has a bigger base cost (typically down to 4 or 5 w/ EX), and cripples for less time. The only advantages of Cripshot over Palm Strike is:

A) Range
B) Recharge
C) Don't have to Sin primary for CS

Although you will probably want to Ranger primary on Cripshot to get that 10 energy down.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41   #102
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recurring insecurity is a bit funny since it makes all hexes unremovable if it is on the top of the hex stack

bug or mechanic?
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19   #103
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you missed the point, Flame burst is already good, this made that bar better, and u can get GOOD aoe pressure now from just 1 fire ele, sure its obvious as hell

Maybe you werent around in early factions days when starburst was a good elite.
All I've seen DD used for is Meteor + Shadow Step + Double Dragon + Inferno + Immolate etc. etc. etc.

And no, I wasn't around in the early factions days when starburst was a good elite. Why would you assume this?
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #104
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recurring insecurity is a bit funny since it makes all hexes unremovable if it is on the top of the hex stack

bug or mechanic?
Unforseen design flaw due to lack of adequate testing I suspect.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #105
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Second thought: gayest update ever.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:54 PM // 21:54   #106
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Starburst was cool. You could run into the Zaishen and blow them up in 4 seconds.
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Old Dec 14, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25   #107
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Unfortunately given RI's description it seems like this was completely intended.
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10   #108
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It can't be intended. Even the dumbest of dumb players must realize a hex which made all prior cast hexes unremovable would be overpowered. But then I could say the same thing for a number of these other buffs...
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 02:01 AM // 02:01   #109
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PaH?

but other than that idk
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05   #110
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Ok srsly wtf, [incoming] RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing sucks, elite [fall back] minus attack thing? Nty

If I want two fall backs I have [echo]

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Old Dec 15, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01   #111
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To be fair, the not ending on hit thing IS big. Melee with +33% IAS and +33% IMS is deadly. It is a bit underwhelming still, but I would much rather have slightly underpowered skill instead of overpowered skill (see: half of the other skills in the update).

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PaH?
I believe, though I haven't tested, that PaH removes RI, RI is reapplied, it removes it again, its reapplied, on and on. In fact, it would be funny as hell to see PaH used against someone with SB + RI and PaH cast on them, they would probably be hit with soul barbs damage as many times as PaH removes hexes, if my belief is correct. Only way to get RI off AFAIK is the skills that remove ALL hexes.

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Old Dec 15, 2008, 03:40 AM // 03:40   #112
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Yes, we were killing heroes in scrims by PnHing them with RI and various other hexes on top of SB.

Edit: oh, this is hilarious. Just watched PD (probably not the first) using Shatter Delusions from 5/6 mesmers on RI to trigger SB over and over.

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Old Dec 15, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38   #113
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lol, hella funny update. Game is broken.
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12   #114
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lol, hella funny update. Game is broken.
I will forever use this update as a way to look back, point, and laugh at how bad Anet is at running competitive games. The fact that anybody thinks this is somehow going to be better in GW2 is a joke.
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 05:54 PM // 17:54   #115
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oook even i think RI is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up now...
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Old Dec 15, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19   #116
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Relax, kids. This kind of thing is bound to happen when a skill re-working pops up just before double champ weekend.

Nonetheless, I hope the obvious stupid imba skills, hundred blades and lingering curse, as well as the buggy recurring insecurity, do get fixed before MAT.
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usually the people who are complaining here are losers, and now they have something to blame other than their incompetence

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Old Dec 15, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #118
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Ok srsly wtf, [incoming] RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing sucks, elite [fall back] minus attack thing? Nty
Actually not having the "attack thing" is poweful. With the hate that this and primal rage have received I am guessing that no one remembers the grand old days where a sword/charge warrior with an axe warrior would tear up a field with +movement and IAS. Nevermind that its a bit stronger than Charge and actually in an attribute line with useful skills.

I guess if all one plays is PvE or RaO one might overlook this.



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Nonetheless, I hope the obvious stupid imba skills, hundred blades and lingering curse, as well as the buggy recurring insecurity, do get fixed before MAT.
If they don't is that like Anet saying, "I thought you guys could take a hint. No seriously get out." ?

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Old Dec 15, 2008, 09:30 PM // 21:30   #119
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Edit: oh, this is hilarious. Just watched PD (probably not the first) using Shatter Delusions from 5/6 mesmers on RI to trigger SB over and over.
HAHAHAHA!! Oh wow, this I have to see, that's so broken I really hope they fix that soon

There's a bunch of skills that are bit over the top but that one gets first place!
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Old Dec 16, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19   #120
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Unfortunately given RI's description it seems like this was completely intended, and no one knows exactly the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO why.
Fixed, and you're welcome.

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Relax, kids.
Laughable.

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