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Jason_Sylon · May 20, 2009, 01:28 PM // 13:28

Hello, community. I've been playing Guild Wars for quite some time in the past and I decided to start playing again. I decided to make a new account along with a new character. I want it to be a mesmer. What do you suggest to be the best secondary profession to use as a mesmer. I want to be doing PvP quite well.

If possible, say every possible quality secondary profession and tell me it's benefits and negatives of having it, then I can choose what is best for what i'll be doing.

bilton06 · May 20, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12

Try this link

Will Holden · May 20, 2009, 03:13 PM // 15:13

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Originally Posted by Jason_Sylon

I want to be doing PvP quite well

Make a PvP Character, then choose any profession from there.

www.pvxwiki.com

Where most of the decent builds are shared these days.

lewis91 · May 20, 2009, 03:19 PM // 15:19

/E or /Mo for RoJ/Cryway teams.

For PVP make a damn PVP char, more versitile, can be changed in seconds.

ac1inferno · May 20, 2009, 03:51 PM // 15:51

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Seco...s_for_a_Mesmer

Seraphim of Chaos · May 20, 2009, 07:00 PM // 19:00

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Originally Posted by ac1inferno

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Seco...s_for_a_Mesmer

lol IW for Me/W and Me/D

no

Celeborn10 · May 20, 2009, 08:10 PM // 20:10

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Originally Posted by bilton06

Try this link

That tells jack about why you should pick a particular secondary. Me/E for GoLE, Gale, Glyph of Essence and Glyph of Renewal would be my pick but alternatives ah screw alternatives. Learn the ways of Glyph of Essence and Diversion and people will rage quit (weaponswap to a lowset first).

The other reason why you would want Me/E is for Fastcast nuking/Water Trident but that doesn't let you toy with your opponents as much.

Tried to find a mezzie guide on GvG but couldn't. Guy by the name of Lego?

Yuna Matsumarui · May 20, 2009, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Me/Ele
for fast cast nuking
Me/W for Illusionary Weaponry + Flail
Me/Mo for some self heals ( not recommendet )
Me/R - never
Me/D - never
Me/A - maybe for shadow arts, though wouldn't recommend it
Me/Rt - never
Me/P - lame
Me/N - never

as you can see. a mesmer is more like a standalone profession, you can make ur own build, for instance PB-mesmer, or Tease + CoF, and throw in some supportive spirits, or some shouts, though ur role is to shut down, if you got a decent Team setup, you don't need shutdown

furthermore i'd suggest Tease + Cry of Frustration, and more interrupts. interrupt skills like fireball, meteor shower etc. that makes you more like a protector, as you prevent massige AoE damage on your party.

Celeborn10 · May 20, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

Don't fastcast nuke in PvP unless it's either AB (Absolute Boredom) or a CM (Random Arenas+GvG=Cruddy Mission). Otherwise just stick to a standard Domination mesmer. For PvP, yes heroes in HA do quite well with Cry and Tease but that's because they cheat.

Here's a somewhat outdated guide for mesmer, I was looking for a better one that would help with interrupts but this will have to do: here

lord of all tyria · May 20, 2009, 09:24 PM // 21:24

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Originally Posted by Yuna Matsumarui

Me/Rt - never
Me/N - never

You're amazing at this game.

Jason_Sylon · May 20, 2009, 09:33 PM // 21:33

I was thinking Me/N. I can use more Dot's, remove enchancements and other skills that are in the same playing field as Me/.

/e wouldn't be for me because i'm not about doing straight damage. I want to manipulate and control my enemies. How does ...

Me/N sound?

+ I want to make a roleplaying char, and not just a PvP one. I want to do PvE when i'm bored and just roam around.

Alongside PvP

Celeborn10 · May 20, 2009, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Jason_Sylon

I was thinking Me/N. I can use more Dot's, remove enchancements and other skills that are in the same playing field as Me/.

/e wouldn't be for me because i'm not about doing straight damage. I want to manipulate and control my enemies. How does ...

Me/N sound?

+ I want to make a roleplaying char, and not just a PvP one. I want to do PvE when i'm bored and just roam around.

Alongside PvP

Most people will laugh at degen hexes unless it is spread across a party. The only really viable Degen mesmer right now is the Lyssa's Aura. I don't see why you can't try both Me/E and Me/N out though. (Me/? with Echo, Me/A for Assassin's Promise and Me/E for Glyph of Renewal are the most common for Cryway in PvE)

For all the campaigns you can unlock your secondary professions relatively quickly through either bypassing missions or starting in Nightfall or Factions. You might find yourself in a bit of a tizzy on a bridge early on the Factions where there's two bosses that can really hurt a Hench party. I'd recommend starting in Prophecies, going to Nightfall for unlocking Heroes and secondaries and back to Prophecies.

If you really must, you could create a second mesmer until your main is ready for PvP. The downside to this is the grind of the damn Balthazar faction because you start underpowered in PvP equipment and skills off the bat. The upside is that it can give insight into what Elites you should cap and equipment to use in PvE.

As for controlling opponents [Gale] does fine in low level PvP while [Diversion] and [Glyph of Essence] really hurts (.25s activation with a 50 second disable). People also claim that [Glyph of Renewal] is overpowered for shortening the recharges of Domination spells but I think they're just envious.

Edit This is important: Here's some homework for you by the almighty Lego of rawr. It should be the Bible of every Mesmer in PvP. Shame the Mesmer forums don't have it stickied.
http://www.rebelrising.net/archives/text/MesmerHelp.pdf
Save it, download it and tile it on your desktop, door and bathroom. It's just that good.

Lux Aeterna · May 20, 2009, 11:44 PM // 23:44

Secondary classes rarely matter very much at all.

Guild wars is not DnD and does not have true multiclassing.
You're only picking a secondary because you want 1-2 small skills usable at a very low attribute investment.

An important exception to this rule is the kappa fast cast Me/E water ele, these are great to have around and widely used in GvG. Builds are on wiki, though a nerf to mirror of ice has changed the way they work.

With this in mind go whatever you want at start, then when you get to a profession changer unlock every single class so you can use whatever skills you want.

I love seeing dash, return, shield bash, and mending touch on caster bars in my party. It lets me know they're thinkers and won't die within the first 15 seconds of combat, or if the monk experiences brief brain freeze and/ or knockdown lock.

That said, assassin probably has the most useful skills - return, smoke powder defense, dash, dark escape.

The important parts of your build will be all mesmer skills, 12 domination 12 fast casting etcetera etcetera.

mistokibbles · May 21, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50

Me/Ele - glyph of lesser energy
Me/W - disciplined stance, shield stance
Me/Mo - hard res? o.O
Me/R - dshot for lulz
Me/D - pious concentration?
Me/A - return, dark escape
Me/Rt -flesh of my flesh, death pact signet
Me/P - make haste?
Me/N - lingering curse, soul bind..
just my opinions..

scruffy · May 21, 2009, 04:36 AM // 04:36

this bar ownz

mesmer/ele

esurge, eburn, signet of weariness, meteor, blackout, drain enchantment, shatter, res sig

meteor can be switched for mind wrack