Curse

sLiceR · Jun 10, 2009, 04:18 PM // 16:18

Since the nerf to FF a few builds popped out:
- hexway based on fevered dreams, lc necro and and r/d
- hammer war, ranger, derv blinder, pnh monk

Wish Swiftdeath · Jun 11, 2009, 05:42 AM // 05:42

Not really, bring balanced stance and sit on 40/40(yes i know no shieldset but you can't keep people up otherwise). More often than not the monk dies but everyone else just finishes off the ele's.

icedwhitemocha · Jun 14, 2009, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by NoXiFy

Echo Ride The Lightning is actually pretty big right now. An organized and decent team can beat any RA/TA team easily if their smart about it.

I really haven't lost to that that I can remember. Monk hits balanced stance and spams woh and I keep one or more on the ground. Easy wins, but monotonous to play against.

Binding · Jun 14, 2009, 05:45 PM // 17:45

^agree
There should be no problem with winning against echo rtl's.
If u survived the first wave u won.

Ferminator · Jun 15, 2009, 08:08 AM // 08:08

I'd look at general spikeway (rtl, ion cannon, mind blast etc.) the ability to organise your own team and co-ordinate your moves between eachother. I've faced teams that spike down my party members one by one with smooth precision and co-ordination. Heck I've seen eles with starburst and a war with shove and 3 monks with stonesoul strike holy strike. It only takes organisation.

Revelations · Jun 16, 2009, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Lol gothspiek.

Seriously, if you have a decent ranger dshotting shove means they don't kill anything. Even if you have a bad ranger dshotting the crushing blow will usually be enough to stop a spike just short of a kill.

As others mentioned RTL is pretty easy to win against, especially with a not braindead ranger. Variations on 3mb eles are annoying, but monkstomping usually wins the round if you have no way of pushing kills through distortion. That build isn't really much of a spike so much as a lot of pressure. Don't know how you'd consider Jebusbeam a spike, also don't really know how you lose to a team running it.

I'd like to see a(nother) small hit to LC, a hit to soulbind (it's inevitable replacement) and a big hit to mantra of resolve to make hexgay require the tiniest bit of thought. Signet of humility is balanced around it's cast time and vulnerability to interrupt. Resolve completely destroys that balance and makes for a pretty unfun match.

bungusmaximus · Jun 25, 2009, 10:54 AM // 10:54

Distortion eles get seriously shafted by pets (provided you actually use pets). Lock pet on ele, and his energy will run dry like mad ^^. Monk wanding them also helps a lot.

Otello · Jul 13, 2009, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by sLiceR

- hammer war, ranger, derv blinder, pnh monk

Yesterday I saw this team (but I do not remember if it was with a ranger or mesmer). It was quite good I think. Do you have the builds of it?

English Warrior · Jul 13, 2009, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Shove Spike is coming popular again.....

sLiceR · Jul 13, 2009, 02:39 PM // 14:39

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Originally Posted by Otello

Yesterday I saw this team (but I do not remember if it was with a ranger or mesmer). It was quite good I think. Do you have the builds of it?

Yesterday you probably saw a variation of that team with a sword warrior:
Warrior: standard cripslash
Ranger: BHA with pious concentration (it is needed to prevent the opposing ranger to dshot your bha)
eda
monk: I saw RC with mendtouch

You can even swap the ranger for a mesmer with fragility, shrinking armor and fevered dreams, but then you would probably like to run a dervish or r/d with wounding strike. To be honest I prefer the version with the ranger: distruption in team arenas is always good, even if only for rez control. The ranger has better survivability too, compared to a mesmer.

Otello · Jul 13, 2009, 02:49 PM // 14:49

Nice

I think I will get a try to this team

Edit: do you think the hammer version could be better?

sLiceR · Jul 14, 2009, 06:51 AM // 06:51

Considering daze sword is a lot better imho. You can cripple the guy who absorbs conditions daze him and frenzy in his face.

Counter: "Its Just a Flesh Wound!" Paragon

Otello · Jul 14, 2009, 10:02 AM // 10:02

A build with quivering blade then, not the standard cripslash

sLiceR · Jul 14, 2009, 01:11 PM // 13:11

daze comes from Broad Head Arrow

Otello · Jul 14, 2009, 03:18 PM // 15:18

thank you slicer

Otello · Jul 16, 2009, 02:00 PM // 14:00

do you have a build for the eda dervish?

I Jonas I · Jul 16, 2009, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Shove spike is now unstoppable. The RC monk brings Aegis, which they use on the warrior during spikes to make it impossible to D shot shove.

The only way to stop a good gothway is to have your R/Me bring cry of frustration to stop their spikes and to have your warrior gain enough adrenaline to Rush -> bulls in the hopes that you can eventually train down a monk.

Master Ketsu · Jul 17, 2009, 07:07 AM // 07:07

^truth

Gothspike has always been lame. Now it's OP and needs a nerf.

Anyways...

Other current meta:

Hexway kinda falling out due to E/me MBway, but still around and still able to lame its way to 10.

E/me MBway in full force. loses to good magebane with balanced.

Balanced still hanging, but loses to goth.

RTL spike can beat goth, but loses horribly to balanced if the Ranger is decent.

Lameway still around in some forms, has an advantage over balanced. Loses to E/me mbway.

TA is basically rock paper scissors.

Otello · Jul 21, 2009, 10:32 AM // 10:32

What is shove spike and goth spike?
Edit: Ok I found it

Animate · Jul 22, 2009, 06:00 PM // 18:00

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Originally Posted by Jonas The Keen

Shove spike is now unstoppable. The RC monk brings Aegis, which they use on the warrior during spikes to make it impossible to D shot shove.

The only way to stop a good gothway is to have your R/Me bring cry of frustration to stop their spikes and to have your warrior gain enough adrenaline to Rush -> bulls in the hopes that you can eventually train down a monk.

leech sig shove = l³³t :>