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May 03, 2008, 12:59 AM // 00:59	#1101
tehshadowninjar Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Dec 2007 Guild: Nite Profession: A/D	[build prof=Mo/ name="Diverting Bonder" box prot=12+1+3 divine=12 smiting=3desc="Weapon #1: 40/40 wand set{br}Weapon #2: +10 energy, +30 health prot staff"][Divert Hexes][Balthazar's Spirit][Shield of Absorption][Spirit Bond][Reversal of Fortune][Dismiss Condition][Blessed Signet][Life Bond][/build] Advantages... 1. Low damage 2. Assassins are easily bypassed if you preprot with SoA and RoF 3. SB can be switched out with prot spirit, but I prefer SB for a good heal against hammer wars and dervs Disadvantages... 1. If you don't have any melee on the opposing team, your energy will go down....FAST 2. You can't block attacks 3. KDers might get you, depended on what happens, as you have no way to prevent KD Notes... Always make sure your 3 team mates are bonded, and Balthazar's Spirit on yourself is a MUST, otherwise, you have no energy coming in. Dismiss Condition can be switched out for CoP if needed.

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May 03, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

#1102

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Join Date: May 2005

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[build prof=Mo/ name="Diverting Bonder" box prot=12+1+3 divine=12 smiting=3desc="Weapon #1: 40/40 wand set{br}Weapon #2: +10 energy, +30 health prot staff"][Divert Hexes][Balthazar's Spirit][Shield of Absorption][Spirit Bond][Reversal of Fortune][Dismiss Condition][Blessed Signet][Life Bond][/build]

Advantages...
1. Low damage
2. Assassins are easily bypassed if you preprot with SoA and RoF
3. SB can be switched out with prot spirit, but I prefer SB for a good heal against hammer wars and dervs

Disadvantages...
1. If you don't have any melee on the opposing team, your energy will go down....FAST
2. You can't block attacks
3. KDers might get you, depended on what happens, as you have no way to prevent KD

Notes...
Always make sure your 3 team mates are bonded, and Balthazar's Spirit on yourself is a MUST, otherwise, you have no energy coming in. Dismiss Condition can be switched out for CoP if needed.

Those disadvantages are pretty huge in the 4v4 game, even in RA. Also, enchantment kill is alot stronger than it was a year ago, so bonder is not the best monk build you can bring in RA anymore, especially when R/D, Shatter sin, and Necro and mesmer variants are very popular.

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May 03, 2008, 02:31 AM // 02:31

#1103

Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Location: America

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Done.

Fixt.

Self heals are way overrated unless it's something like heal as one that is dual purpose and compliments an already powerful build. If you have to put points into an unneeded attribute, or even worse choose a secondary to heal, that detracts from your damage output and makes you a useless nothing. Plague touch and antidote sig are in my builds to counter SoM gayness, but plague touch can also be a tactical aid to warriors spiking if you can pass conditions onto your target.

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May 03, 2008, 02:37 AM // 02:37

#1104

RhanoctJocosa

Legendary Korean

Join Date: Aug 2006

Guild: The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Profession: W/

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[build prof=Mo/ name="Diverting Bonder" box prot=12+1+3 divine=12 smiting=3desc="Weapon #1: 40/40 wand set{br}Weapon #2: +10 energy, +30 health prot staff"][Divert Hexes][Balthazar's Spirit][Shield of Absorption][Spirit Bond][Reversal of Fortune][Dismiss Condition][Blessed Signet][Life Bond][/build])

I'd leave a team if the monk was running that.

Also, lol @ EC and PT being tough on energy.

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May 03, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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MasterSasori

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2007

Location: USA

Guild: [Thay]

Profession: R/Mo

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[build prof=Mo/ name="Diverting Bonder" box prot=12+1+3 divine=12 smiting=3desc="Weapon #1: 40/40 wand set{br}Weapon #2: +10 energy, +30 health prot staff"][Divert Hexes][Balthazar's Spirit][Shield of Absorption][Spirit Bond][Reversal of Fortune][Dismiss Condition][Blessed Signet][Life Bond][/build]

You might want to add any and every enchant removal on your list.

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May 03, 2008, 02:57 AM // 02:57

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Alex the Great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2007

Location: America.....got a problem with that?

Guild: [Lite]

Profession: W/

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Deep wound is conditional. I do not want any conditional skills on there at all, simply because it's intended for spiking and/or pressure. It's my build, it's perfected, leave me alone. -_-U

dude, deep wound is right up there with an ias in the list of things melee needs. Just view it as 100 free damage!

your build is not perfected, and If you don't want us to suggest things DON'T POST HERE.

BTW, I even bring deep wound on casters lol [Augury of Death] FTW

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May 03, 2008, 03:59 AM // 03:59

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Krill

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Location: America

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dude, deep wound is right up there with an ias in the list of things melee needs. Just view it as 100 free damage!

Let's not forget that deep wound reduces healing by 20% too. I agree completely that any melee build without a deep wound spike fails. Additionally, unless it's a hammer with a second kd, another condition to cover the deep wound is preferable.

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This w/p build is pretty cool too.

[flail][for great justice][barbed spear][blazing spear][maiming spear][merciless spear][stunning strike][enraging charge]or[rez sig]

I've tried some W/P spam builds too:

[build=Stunning Warrior;OQkiExl8AkVwDZDLfVIHvFAA]

[build=Coward Spear;OQkiExl8AkVwDZDLftsFvFAA]

Alternatively replace [Merciless Spear] with [Wild Throw] to punch through sway's and punish melandru's resilience monks.

W/P isn't bad but it's pretty boring spam play.

Oh and one more hammer build while i'm on a posting spree

[build=Quick Hammer Spike;OQYTgmIP5JvdWAL/E+65wwKAAA]

Forceful Blow is obviously use at your own risk, but it can work decently in RA where matches are often cheap and quick. Last slot is optional:

[Enraging Charge] or [Bull's Strike] or [Lion's Comfort]

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May 03, 2008, 09:16 AM // 09:16	#1108
Morgan Crowe Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Austria. Guild: The Country Called Europe [EUR] Profession: W/	[build prof=Monk/Elementalist][Zealous Benediction][Divine Spirit][Reversal of Fortune][Spirit Bond][Dismiss][Deny Hexes][Glyph of lesser Energy][Guardian][/build] Advantages: - unbeatable E-management - big prot (Spirit Bond) - a "big" hex remove (removes 2 - that's enough most of the time) Disadvantages: - You haven't got holy veil on your bar (cannot preveil against migrain, frustration, diversion or backfire) - cannot bond your team before the match starts(!) I only screw the flawless if there is a good mesmer in the opponent team (powerblock, migrain-heavy-interrupt) or if the other team is able to kdchain me. For the first point I blame the rangers in my team (if there are some), they should interrupt the mesmers diversion or migrain. If I get kdchained I made a mistake, because I haven't used guardian fast enough. Nevertheless it works very well for me. Nearly all matches end in a flawless victory.

May 03, 2008, 09:38 AM // 09:38	#1109
Owoc Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Location: subset of R×R×R Guild: Bubbles [oOo]	[build prof=Mo/A healing=11+1+1 divine=10+1 protection=10+1 shadow=0][Patient Spirit][Guardian][Word of Healing][Mending Touch][Holy Veil][Spotless Mind][Mend Condition][Return][/build] how about: [build prof=E/N air=12+1+2 energy=12+1 curses=3][lightning bolt][blinding surge][lightning orb][rend enchantments][aura of restoration][air attunement][gole][rez sig][/build] builds don't count as characters, so I typed some stuff here to have more than 11

May 03, 2008, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#1110
Pyro maniac Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	[build;OQJUAMBPUsN0AVQOIGAFQB/aBAA] Played it today, was pretty fun. Actually killed some gay Me/Mo signet guy who didn't see Panic in 5 seconds >.< (which doesn't mean anything, but hey ..)

May 03, 2008, 04:27 PM // 16:27	#1111
Destromath Academy Page Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Grenths Dark Templars [GDT] Profession: W/E	With all of the spear builds going around, I might as well post my favorite one =D. [build prof=R/P name="Spearchucker" spear=12 beast=10+1+1 exp=8+1 desc="Weapon #1: Zealous Spear{br}Weapon #2: Furious Spear"][Barbed Spear][Blazing Spear][Merciless Spear][Poisonous Bite][Rampage as One][Comfort Animal][Charm Animal][Resurrection Signet][/build] It's one of my fastest killilng builds so far (despite having no healing at all) and I love using it so much. I even managed to take on 2 sins and a rit by myself once XD. Then again, both sins messed up their spikes and the rit was a spirit spammer... Oh well, it was still fun with my team calling me godly for the moment XD.

May 04, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30	#1112
Boogz Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Feb 2008 Guild: Variable Speed Farmers[VsF] Profession: Mo/	[build=Me ill=12+1+1 fas=8+1 ins=10+1][Ineptitude][Clumsiness][Wandering Eye][Auspicious Incantation][Conjure Nightmare][Drain Enchantment][Ether Feast][Resurection Signet][/build] I'm loving playing with this build, having great results with it

May 06, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53	#1113
The Arching Healer Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2006 Guild: Super Kaon Action Team [SuKa]	Hi guys, im using the following build: [build=WoH Arena Monk;OwET04nCRSjQgACMv6moBsmYtAA] I want to ask you guys how to deal with dazed. It always results in a instant death here when there are more than 1 physicals attacking me. I can get rid of dazed when only 1, used shield bash + mending touch. But when more than 1, im really fcked. EDIT: Just got some 2x-20% dazed runes Last edited by The Arching Healer; May 06, 2008 at 03:02 PM // 15:02..*

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May 06, 2008, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

Profession: W/

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Hi guys, im using the following build:

[build=WoH Arena Monk;OwET04nCRSjQgACMv6moBsmYtAA]

I want to ask you guys how to deal with dazed. It always results in a instant death here when there are more than 1 physicals attacking me. I can get rid of dazed when only 1, used shield bash + mending touch. But when more than 1, im really f*cked.

EDIT: Just got some 2x-20% dazed runes

Dazed runes don't stack, fyi.

To counter it I would just spam Patient Spirit and kite until it wears off. If you can get a Shield/Focus with reduced dazed duration to add to the rune you can usually get by on that.

Build looks good in general, though i'm not a huge fan of Draw/MTouch combo. I'd rather take MTouch and Mend Condi just to get the extra heal out of it.

Last edited by JR; May 06, 2008 at 03:19 PM // 15:19..

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May 06, 2008, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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yum

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2007

Profession: W/E

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Hi guys, im using the following build:

[build=WoH Arena Monk;OwET04nCRSjQgACMv6moBsmYtAA]

I want to ask you guys how to deal with dazed. It always results in a instant death here when there are more than 1 physicals attacking me. I can get rid of dazed when only 1, used shield bash + mending touch. But when more than 1, im really f*cked.

EDIT: Just got some 2x-20% dazed runes

If I were you, I drop Spotless and use Dstance. Kite a bit, use Dstance and mendtouch with 40/40 set.

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May 06, 2008, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#1116
KartMan Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Grand Line Guild: Plz Use R Instead of Q for [req]	I've been playing this necro for a while and it's really fun [build prof=N/R curse=12+1+1 soulreaping=12+1][foul feast][plague signet][parasitic bond][faintheartedness][insidious parasite][rip enchantment][distracting shot][resurrection signet][/build] 40/40 curse and soulreaping set recurve bow def set (spear + shield) sometimes I switch [rip enchantment] for [rend enchantment] why dshot ? because the 20sec disable is win

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May 06, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

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JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

Profession: W/

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If I were you, I drop Spotless and use Dstance. Kite a bit, use Dstance and mendtouch with 40/40 set.

Considering the amount of hex shutdown for Warriors in RA, I'd much rather take Spotless. The duration of DStance makes it a bit mediocre, particularly the spec it requires, and frankly its not going to help if your Warriors can't kill anything.

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May 06, 2008, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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kicks66

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Location: London

Guild: [Cape]

Profession: E/

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Originally Posted by The Arching Healer

Hi guys, im using the following build:

[build=WoH Arena Monk;OwET04nCRSjQgACMv6moBsmYtAA]

I want to ask you guys how to deal with dazed. It always results in a instant death here when there are more than 1 physicals attacking me. I can get rid of dazed when only 1, used shield bash + mending touch. But when more than 1, im really f*cked.

EDIT: Just got some 2x-20% dazed runes

I run an almost the same build, but 11/10/9 and 4 tactics. I swap Shield Bash for Disciplined stance because SA sins arent too common, and WoH outheals them anyway. Also, ive never really understood the point of draw, it means a total of 10e everytime you remove a cond. Ive found Mend Touch with Mend Condition to be far superior.

Except for that, its defeinitely a strong build. If im dazed i just knock on Disciplined Stance and switch to a 40/40 set, a lot of the time (40%) youll manage to get WoH/Patient/Mend with a quick cast.

Anyway, my 2 pennies.

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May 07, 2008, 07:38 AM // 07:38

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steel singer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Profession: Mo/

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I run an almost the same build, but 11/10/9 and 4 tactics. I swap Shield Bash for Disciplined stance because SA sins arent too common, and WoH outheals them anyway. Also, ive never really understood the point of draw, it means a total of 10e everytime you remove a cond. Ive found Mend Touch with Mend Condition to be far superior.

Except for that, its defeinitely a strong build. If im dazed i just knock on Disciplined Stance and switch to a 40/40 set, a lot of the time (40%) youll manage to get WoH/Patient/Mend with a quick cast.

Anyway, my 2 pennies.

Without draw how do you deal with deep wounds then?
A lot of deepwounds are covered and it's so annoying having a deep wound on a target because you heal less..
And what about blindbots? Me/N or Ele with lightning orb(cracked)

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May 07, 2008, 09:32 AM // 09:32	#1120
urania Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2006 Guild: vD Profession: Mo/	Both mend cond and draw cond have their pros as well as cons - if a deep wound is always covered then id try to keep guardian up on the target all the time and try to remove both of the conds if energy is fine, otherwise only guardian the target and heal up with woh. if you face a me/n with mend cond you're screwed up already if your team has several phyisicals and an insufficient cond removal (no ff, for example, or not mend touch ranger who isn't a complete failure). Even draw cond doesn't guarantee a win vs a me/n, but the chances are significantly higher as the case with mend cond is.

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