Curse

moko · Oct 18, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

this is about RA. please keep bitchfights and discussions regarding skillbars for GvG out.

Shuuda · Oct 18, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Erm.... why delete my post, I never mentioned GvG or had a bitch fight.

As for that build, if it's not made for damage, why all the skills that do damage, if your looking for shut down, there is better, even though that side of deadly arts is never looked at.

yum · Oct 18, 2007, 08:26 PM // 20:26

It's a mix build. I want a build that does some decent damage (can kill something) while can still support my monks. Hidden Caltrops is a really good snare you know

Shuuda · Oct 18, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

Oh, and what runes are you running? Looks like 2 majors...

yum · Oct 18, 2007, 09:14 PM // 21:14

oops my bad, its 15 DA 13 SA, 550 hp. If you don't spam, energy will not be a problem.
Like I said, its a fun build. If you want to score easy kills and no fun, then run this:
A/N cookie cutter
12 curse 16 DA
[skill]Dancing Daggers[/skill][skill]Entangling Asp[/skill][skill]Signet of Toxic shock[/skill][skill]Corrupt Enchantment[/skill][skill]Envenom Enchantments[/skill][skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill][skill]Augury of Death[/skill]+rez

I run that when Im sad. Watching monk suffering helps a bit

Symbol · Oct 19, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26

I'd drop shameful fear for DP in that first build, and replace glyph with some other energy management. Don't know what since you don't have any points left to invest in inspiration.

Shuuda · Oct 20, 2007, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Ok, another dogcrap build I've been prating around with recently

Echo Domination Mesmer.

[skill]echo[/skill][skill]power leak[/skill][skill]shatter enchantment[/skill][skill]shame[/skill][skill]diversion[/skill][skill]power drain[/skill][skill]drain enchantment[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Domination - 14
Inspiration - 11
Fast Casting - 9

Survivor Insignia.
40/40 HRT domination wand and focus at the least.

Ok, it's just like any other dom build but with crappy Echo as the elite, simply echo the skill you want to use more of. You'd be suprised how many monks can fall for double shame, or how much energy you can shred with double power leak. Oh, and I'm sure Echoing Res sig has it's good points, albiet niche.

Optional skills include:

Blackout - because Echo blackout is pwnage.
Res chant.

Thomas.knbk · Oct 20, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Ok, another dogcrap build I've been prating around with recently

Echo Domination Mesmer.

[skill]echo[/skill][skill]power leak[/skill][skill]shatter enchantment[/skill][skill]shame[/skill][skill]diversion[/skill][skill]power drain[/skill][skill]drain enchantment[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

Domination - 14
Inspiration - 11
Fast Casting - 9

Survivor Insignia.
40/40 HRT domination wand and focus at the least.

Ok, it's just like any other dom build but with crappy Echo as the elite, simply echo the skill you want to use more of. You'd be suprised how many monks can fall for double shame, or how much energy you can shred with double power leak. Oh, and I'm sure Echoing Res sig has it's good points, albiet niche.

Optional skills include:

Blackout - because Echo blackout is pwnage.
Res chant.

[card]Glyph of Renewal[/card] > dat

Shuuda · Oct 20, 2007, 08:56 PM // 20:56

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

[card]Glyph of Renewal[/card] > dat

Hey, I said it was dogshit. And Echo has some pluses, being a Mesmer skill (sparing 2nd proffession) shorter recharge etc etc. But GoR is most likely better in everyway. And speaking of Glyph, you could also use Glyph of Scarfice in my build to get an instant cast on an echoed Diversion, why I didn't see that before.

TheOneMephisto · Oct 21, 2007, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Hey, I said it was dogshit. And Echo has some pluses, being a Mesmer skill (sparing 2nd proffession) shorter recharge etc etc. But GoR is most likely better in everyway. And speaking of Glyph, you could also use Glyph of Scarfice in my build to get an instant cast on an echoed Diversion, why I didn't see that before.

The only advantage I can think of is the ability to pull GoS echo'ed diversions. Of course, you could also put glyph of lesser energy and echo that for unlimited energy if you ever need it.

guam pvp · Oct 22, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

One of my favorite spells in the game: WoR

Weapon Of Remedy {E}
Spirit Light
Mend Body and Soul
Ancestor's Rage
Essence Strike
Blood Song
Destruction
Res Sig/Flesh of my flesh/Gaze of Fury

12+1+3 Restoration
12+1 Channeling
3 Spawning

Spam essence strike as much as possible for e-management. With 16 restoration, ur WoR steals 79 life. A sup rune for restoration is my preference.. although u can use a minor rest. rune if u want.

Thomas.knbk · Oct 24, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

[card]Offering of Spirit[/card][card]Judge's Insight[/card][card]Strength of Honor[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Draw Conditions[/card][card]Smite Hex[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
12+1+1 channeling, 12 smiting rest spawning

A little build I put together for RA use. I was like 'damn, no way' when I saw rawr and be team use it on obs

Vermilion · Oct 25, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

[card]Offering of Spirit[/card][card]Judge's Insight[/card][card]Strength of Honor[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Draw Conditions[/card][card]Smite Hex[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
12+1+1 channeling, 12 smiting rest spawning

A little build I put together for RA use. I was like 'damn, no way' when I saw rawr and be team use it on obs

That's a build we used to run in gvg like 6 months ago. It's fun.

yum · Oct 25, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

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Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk

[card]Offering of Spirit[/card][card]Judge's Insight[/card][card]Strength of Honor[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Draw Conditions[/card][card]Smite Hex[/card][card]Resurrection Signet[/card]
12+1+1 channeling, 12 smiting rest spawning

A little build I put together for RA use. I was like 'damn, no way' when I saw rawr and be team use it on obs

Man, it's RA and rits are the favorite snack second only to monk. That build is cute in organized team but not in RA.

Thomas.knbk · Oct 25, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

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Originally Posted by yum

Man, it's RA and rits are the favorite snack second only to monk. That build is cute in organized team but not in RA.

If you don't have a monk, you're going to die. That's true. Using ancestor's rage on yourself when you're being focused on is cute though. It hits for like 180 in frenzy and ~110 on sins. And you can just kite.

zling · Oct 25, 2007, 10:49 PM // 22:49

basic LoD Hybrid
[skill]reversal of fortune[/skill][skill]guardian[/skill][skill]dwayna's kiss[/skill][skill]light of deliverance[/skill][skill]shielding hands[/skill][skill]dismiss condition[/skill][skill]holy veil[/skill][skill]shield bash[/skill] or [skill]return[/skill] or other self survival skill
best Monk build for RA, even better than ZB lmho

yum · Oct 25, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Stat plz.

And I fail to see how LOD can be good in RA or TA, not even think about how it can be better than ZB. Can you explain? 0-0

zling · Oct 25, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

11-10-10 split works best.
LoD is great in arenas for the same reasons its great in GvG. 4 players is still enough to make a lot out of LoD...
1 of the biggest advantages of this build is that it only has 5 energy skills. that's the main problem with ZB and a lone monk. it uses at least 2 10 energy skills, ZB and usually SB
also the 10 energy required for ZB makes it unavailable when needed too many times to my liking.

Master Ketsu · Oct 26, 2007, 12:28 AM // 00:28

ZB only costs 3 energy when used correctly.

TheOneMephisto · Oct 26, 2007, 12:54 AM // 00:54

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Originally Posted by zling

11-10-10 split works best.
LoD is great in arenas for the same reasons its great in GvG. 4 players is still enough to make a lot out of LoD...
1 of the biggest advantages of this build is that it only has 5 energy skills. that's the main problem with ZB and a lone monk. it uses at least 2 10 energy skills, ZB and usually SB
also the 10 energy required for ZB makes it unavailable when needed too many times to my liking.

No. First, you aren't going to be really getting that many good triggers of 3+ people in arenas and you lack the really big single-target healing power that you NEED in 4v4. Second, if you can't use 10e skills well then you suck, if you can't get enough out of SBs to warrant the 10 energy, then you aren't using it right. Third, learn to weapon swap and you will never not have the 10 energy for ZB unless you're bottomed out in your high set (in which case you're dead either way).