Curse

Ok Dont Panic · Nov 30, 2010, 08:30 PM // 20:30

No change the eles >< The SF eles dont do nearly as much damage as a rit would. Changing out even one SF ele to a Clamour of Souls rit would probably be a huge improvment.
My opinion is.

DwG mesmer - human
-Panic hero
-SoS Rit
-UA monk
DwG dervish - human
-ST rit
-MM necro
-Clamour rit

this might be a better alternative ><

Calista Blackblood · Nov 30, 2010, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

So
1 panic mesmer human
1 dervish human
1 Curse Necro
1 Tease/other elite mesmer
1 channelling ritualist
2 monks
1 any/E with earth ward/s (select which one/s you want)

Ok or change 1 monk to rit?

^changed
I can't really figure out why you would want minions to die with Death nova,I can't help but get the feeling that you would actually benefit more from a minion wall.

Shadowlion · Nov 30, 2010, 08:34 PM // 20:34

They don't just do direct damage, also aoe knockdown/interrupt with burning. Also with cracked armor they should perform better.

As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die.

Calista Blackblood · Nov 30, 2010, 08:38 PM // 20:38

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

They don't just do direct damage, also aoe knockdown/interrupt with burning. Also with cracked armor they should perform better.

As for the mm, they form a wall but also able to inflict aoe damage when they die.

Burning isn't that great of a condition,especially vs lvl 28 foes.Meteor Shower? Foes should be dead long before the minions really..

Ok Dont Panic · Nov 30, 2010, 08:40 PM // 20:40

If you only have one melee and if he is attacking you are going to need some heavy hex removal k?

o and burning on foes that have smite conditions and stuff is strong!

Shadowlion · Nov 30, 2010, 08:47 PM // 20:47

I just think it's not impossible to beat this with SF eles.

FoxBat · Nov 30, 2010, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Illusion clumsiness mesmer, splinter weapon/arage/strength of honor for the derv, and maybe some smite AoE are going to do a ton more for you than fire. Especially since cry of pain + death nova should already hit the degen cap. Aura of the Lich on your MM is worth it for this quest, disable and micro, there are points where your army will be nearly dead and you will be knee deep in bodies, this gets some resilient minions up very fast. There are enough hexes here that avatar of dwayna is worth considering, although panic + some smite can do wonders.

Ok Dont Panic · Nov 30, 2010, 11:06 PM // 23:06

honestly i really think you should drop the SF eles... there is a lot better damage dealing heros and builds than SF ><

Net The Nabi · Dec 01, 2010, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Why would you come asking for advice, and then outright ignore the biggest piece of it you've gotten? It seems to be the general consensus to drop the SF eles IN THIS INSTANCE. So, why not? Your goal is to pass right? Not to pass with SF eles.

Shadowlion · Dec 01, 2010, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Ok I will drop them, but not sure how to build a good channeling rit, can I go with 2 SoS necro replace the 2 ele?

Calista Blackblood · Dec 01, 2010, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

Ok I will drop them, but not sure how to build a good channeling rit, can I go with 2 SoS necro replace the 2 ele?

No you can only have one of each spirit.

Essence Snow · Dec 01, 2010, 05:43 PM // 17:43

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

Ok I will drop them, but not sure how to build a good channeling rit, can I go with 2 SoS necro replace the 2 ele?

Not sure why you would use necros to SoS..do u not have Xandra or Razah?

Carboplatin · Dec 01, 2010, 05:53 PM // 17:53

I would drop both SF eles, they just aren't that useful in doa imo.

You can replace those 2 eles with any 2 of the following:
1 SF ele for a SoS rit with Ancestor's rage and splinter weapon.
1 SF ele for either an Energy surge mes or an ineptitude mesmer.
1 SF ele for ST communing rit (this might be an overkill imo)

bring mark of pain on the curse necro as well (if your derv is not doing holy dmg)

and in case you really didn't know, Cons = consumables

Shadowlion · Dec 01, 2010, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Why use rit for SoS? I don't understand.

Life Bringing · Dec 01, 2010, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

Why use rit for SoS? I don't understand.

Because it's a build made up entirely of rit skills that has access to spirit siphon?

Shadowlion · Dec 01, 2010, 11:33 PM // 23:33

I don't know much about that build, I will try to get my own build for SoS curse necro. Also, can I bring Jora? She's my favorite.

Essence Snow · Dec 02, 2010, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Now I'm just confused at why you are posting. You ask for help yet ignore everyone's advice.

WarcryOfTruth · Dec 02, 2010, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by Shadowlion

I don't know much about that build, I will try to get my own build for SoS curse necro. Also, can I bring Jora? She's my favorite.

He honestly here, may be referring to Signet of Suffering. He mentions Curses and such...

Shadowlion · Dec 02, 2010, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

Now I'm just confused at why you are posting. You ask for help yet ignore everyone's advice.

I know nothing about those builds, so I can only try to build myself.

Schnellburg · Dec 02, 2010, 04:57 AM // 04:57

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Originally Posted by Ok Dont Panic

honestly i really think you should drop the SF eles... there is a lot better damage dealing heros and builds than SF ><

You realize that shitterflames (Searing flames) was a meta DoA build for quilte awhile before moving to Savannah heat, so on right?? So you saying that SF is subpar is fairly ignorant. You have to find a way to keep them on the ground, meteor shower will most likely get int.

I would say try an ES hero as that would work great minus the area effect if your doing it in HM. Psychic instability would be an option if you wanna drop panic for it, but you have to be able to actually interrupt to run it...