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Mitchel · Jan 31, 2008, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Now with the new controls, would a Sin Hero be woth it?

Bowstring Badass · Jan 31, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Mitchel

Now with the new controls, would a Sin Hero be woth it?

Well they made it possible to spike in PvP with heroes now. So you could but you can't entirely control the character but possibly make it some what useful.

ZeAliX · Feb 06, 2008, 01:21 AM // 01:21

I tried giving zenmai a moebius build.. guess what she did.. she managed to use two dual attacks after eachother. I just: "ehhh.. stupid zenmai". Anton could use it better (quite good too), but as already mentioned.. hero sins don't tend to use the skills as quickly as human players

Bobby2 · Feb 06, 2008, 01:57 AM // 01:57

If Blossom is the only dual on her bar, Zenmai spams it quite well with MS. Also, besides the efficient Hexing she tends to do, she makes very good use of the Iron Palm-Falling attack combo, so count your blessings and go for it.

sixofone · Feb 06, 2008, 02:54 PM // 14:54

I've run her as an A/D with [ skill=text]Ebon Dust Aura[/skill] and Malicious Strike, Way of Perfection, and Vital Boon. (I also have an ebon dagger, so I don't need to convert her weapons to that using another enchantment.) I like to give her Wild Strike, too, plus Golden Lotus. For a Dual strike I usually put Death Blossom on her, and then a Rez. Has worked pretty well so far!

Utaku · Feb 06, 2008, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I only use Assassin heroes when I'm monking, because they are really dependant on Prot Spirit and Shield of Absorption. As pointed out before, with a very straight forward chain they are ok, but not that great (*remembers baby sitting -60% zenmai in front of Shiro during Gate of Madness)...
As you are running a curse necro, all you need is one or two Paragons with physical dmg spears (I hate this fiery pre order spear) and bone fiends on your battery MM.

RadaArashi · Feb 06, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Assassin heroes won't perform a chain properly if:

- There's either two duals or off-hands in the chain. Especially with duals, they will try to use them at the same time, naturally only one will have effect and the other will just be a waste of energy
- Low recharging lead. The way I've observed both Zenmai and Anton work is that they will go Lead-> Off-hand, melee spam for a second or two then in most cases they'll do the Lead again if its recharged instead of completing the chain with a dual.

The way I solved this (testing in the isle of the nameless) is to add a long recharge lead like Golden Lotus Strike, Black Lotus Strike, Leaping Mantis Sting and one Dual, preferably Death Blossom since Heroes can perform Moebius Blossom well.

Also they do not understand how to use Exhausting Assault but my theory is that they probably only use it on demand to actually interrupt something.

My Zenmai/Anton build is:

Critical Defenses, Shadow Refuge/Way of Perfection, Golden Lotus Strike, Golden Fang Strike, Death Blossom, Moebius Strike, Death's Return, Disrupting Dagger

However, despite the Assassin job being my favorite over all, I'll admit an assassin dagger hero is not useful. Firstly they play as tanks, something that Melonni and Jora do better. Second, when testing, it appears both Zenmai and Jora kill their respective dummies at the same time. Jora was using Sever Artery, Gash, Dragon Slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Enraging Charge. So, same damage for less survivability is not very efficient.

Fun and personal preference is the only reason I tag along a hero sin with me.

sixofone · Feb 07, 2008, 02:35 PM // 14:35

Much as I like using an Assassin hero at times, the challenge I have is that without micro-managing/targeting they try to tank instead of hit squishies and back off. Which is why I load Zenmai with some conditions she can spread around, especially blindness. But, as others have stated, even with a good Assassin build, you're generally better off with a Warrior (with a good build).

Takuna · Feb 09, 2008, 12:07 AM // 00:07

I've heard good things about assassin heroes but in my opinion, they are just... ugh... really, far to stupid, both hero and henchman ones...

Trinity Fire Angel · Feb 22, 2008, 04:18 AM // 04:18

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Originally Posted by Moloch Vein

Well, I've been experimenting more with physicals lately. And, since almost every goddamn PvE assassin I've teamed with have sucked, not to mention the henchmen, I've tried to make a decent equipped Zenmai.

My problem is she's too bloody dumb to use Moebius Strike.

Any type of constructive input would be helpful. She won't use Moebius... she just... won't... despite numerous opportunities.

ANet have recently added mapping keys for hero skills. just remap yur keyboard so that your skills are 12345678 and your hero skills are QWERTYUI

then you just have her shadow you and you spike together .... eg

1Q 2W 3E 4R 5T 6Y 7U 8I

just learn to press two keys at once. been doing this on a SP build and a Blossom build and the dmg is insane.

so far it has earned me 2 rage quits and not one single gg. maybe cause i was camping their rez shrine. better if ou had enuff
keyboard space for 2 hero control. 3 SP sins. ROFLMAO

RavagerOfDreams · Feb 22, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

dont use sin heroes

necros heroes>sin heroes

uberwan kapwni · Feb 23, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by RavagerOfDreams

dont use sin heroes

necros heroes>sin heroes

thats right, sab's build ftw