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Old Mar 22, 2008, 03:02 AM // 03:02   #461
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I would say drop Pure was for the new Foul Feast, nice source of e management if corpses get low or longer fights, plus then you do not need dual pots on the IV build.

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Old Mar 22, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55   #462
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When I do run an n/rt healer with my gf and she has sab's too, I usually bring foul feast and pure was instead of life and um splinter weapon I suppose. That way they bring all conditions to themselves and use pure was to get rid of them.
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Old Mar 22, 2008, 12:43 PM // 12:43   #463
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Sab i can't thank you enough for this great build, a freind and i just steamrolled fow last night in less than 3 hours .
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Old Mar 22, 2008, 11:43 PM // 23:43   #464
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Just as a note, when me and my bro play, we tend to have 3 necros on the normal builds, then the other 3 using these ones:

[card]Tainted Flesh[/card][card]Rotting Flesh[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Gaze From Beyond[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Destruction[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

[card]Plague Signet[/card][card]Enfeebling Blood[/card][card]Weaken Armor[/card][card]Rip Enchantment[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

[card]Icy Veins[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Spirit Light[/card][card]Protective Was Kaolai[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Bloodsong[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]
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Old Mar 27, 2008, 08:12 AM // 08:12   #465
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[card]Word Of Healing[/card][card]Dwayna's Kiss[/card][card]Cure Hex[/card][card]Dismiss Condition[/card][card]Healing Touch[/card][card]Signet Of Rejuvenation[/card][card]Guardian[/card][card]Resurrection Chant[/card]

[card]Searing Flames[/card][card]Glowing Gaze[/card][card]Glyph Of Lesser Energy[/card][card]Meteor Shower[/card][card]Fire Attunement[/card][card]Cure Hex[/card][card]Dismiss Condition[/card][card]Resurrection Chant[/card]

[card]Jagged Bones[/card][card]Blood of The Master[/card][card]Taste Of Death[/card][card]Animate Shambling Horror[/card][card]Animate Bone Minions[/card][card]Death Nova[/card][card]Blood Ritual[/card][card]Aegis[/card]

i tried the "sabway" but i didn`t liked it, was slower, and i just don`t like the "heroway" builds at HA and consider this as a copy of it, so i use mine, and have no problems @ all in 4 man areas, in 8-man i just change the WoH monk To HB with heal party and GoLE
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Old Mar 27, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39   #466
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Just as a note, when me and my bro play, we tend to have 3 necros on the normal builds, then the other 3 using these ones:

[card]Tainted Flesh[/card][card]Rotting Flesh[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Gaze From Beyond[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Destruction[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

[card]Plague Signet[/card][card]Enfeebling Blood[/card][card]Weaken Armor[/card][card]Rip Enchantment[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]

[card]Icy Veins[/card][card]Splinter Weapon[/card][card]Ancestors' Rage[/card][card]Spirit Light[/card][card]Protective Was Kaolai[/card][card]Signet Of Lost Souls[/card][card]Bloodsong[/card][card]Death Pact Signet[/card]
Second build looks like what I have to replace the SS N/Rt, but I took out Pure. Pure runs counter to your build because it makes conditions on you expire faster so your Plague Signet becomes less effective, offensively. If you drop Pure, then there is also no point running Foul Feast for health and energy management, since all your allies would be free of 2 conditions.

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Old Mar 27, 2008, 09:37 AM // 09:37   #467
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Second build looks like what I have to replace the SS N/Rt, but I took out Pure. Pure runs counter to your build because it makes conditions on you expire faster so your Plague Signet becomes less effective, offensively. If you drop Pure, then there is also no point running Foul Feast for health and energy management, since all your allies would be free of 2 conditions.

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I probably should have mentioned that i have pure was disabled until those pesky Searing Flames or Rotting Flesh moments.
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Old Mar 27, 2008, 03:45 PM // 15:45   #468
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I probably should have mentioned that i have pure was disabled until those pesky Searing Flames or Rotting Flesh moments.
If you want a more defensive party-wide condition removal, you can also go N/Mo and use Martyr/Plague Sending or N/P and use Cautery Signet/Plague Sending.

That way, you also free up 1 skill slot (Pure) for a hex removal or something else.
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Old Mar 27, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57   #469
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If you want a more defensive party-wide condition removal, you can also go N/Mo and use Martyr/Plague Sending or N/P and use Cautery Signet/Plague Sending.

That way, you also free up 1 skill slot (Pure) for a hex removal or something else.
You're probably right, although I will probably replace it with [skill=text]Epidemic[/skill]. To spread the conditions around a bit.
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Old Mar 29, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18   #470
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Sabway is boring /rant /runs

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Old Mar 29, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19   #471
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Sabway is boring /rant /runs

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thanks, your very constructive.
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Old Mar 29, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #472
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Old Mar 29, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28   #473
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Dont run it then.
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Old Apr 05, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #474
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What exactly build should I use as a ranger with those heroes? Im interested in both 4-man and 8-man teams. 6-man teams also :P
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Old Apr 06, 2008, 02:04 AM // 02:04   #475
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What exactly build should I use as a ranger with those heroes? Im interested in both 4-man and 8-man teams. 6-man teams also :P
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Broad Head Arrow with Volley and Triple Shot, or a Barrage Ranger are decent options. Take Barbs and Rigor Mortis on the Curses build and maybe Weaken Armor. Take Splinter Weapon on one of the Heroes and you'll rack up some decent damage. You could take a Pet as a lightning rod for Ancestor's Rage.

I'd go with a Warrior secondary for "Save Yourselves!", adrenaline will build quickly with Volley or Barrage.

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Old Apr 10, 2008, 09:40 AM // 09:40   #476
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I usually run either R/Me or R/Rt so that wouldn't be a good idea but with this team setup I could drop the Rt and expect Splinter Weapon of heros instead. At least that'll give my party a nice handy armour buff.

Does anyone know if Ebon Battle Standard of Honor affects minions? The ward specifies 'allies' but I don't know whether that would just be allies that appear in the party list or minion allies.
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Old Apr 10, 2008, 10:00 AM // 10:00   #477
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I usually run either R/Me or R/Rt so that wouldn't be a good idea but with this team setup I could drop the Rt and expect Splinter Weapon of heros instead. At least that'll give my party a nice handy armour buff.

Does anyone know if Ebon Battle Standard of Honor affects minions? The ward specifies 'allies' but I don't know whether that would just be allies that appear in the party list or minion allies.
The good thing about Ebon Vanguard Standard of Honour is that it boosts damage from ALL sources. That includes minions! so yeah, its probably one of the most powerful PvE skills to use with minions.

Edit: For a ranger its probably best to take Bone Fiends rather than minions as you dont want to have to run closer to the enemy to drop the ward, its best if you can just drop it out around the backline and reap the rewards.

Can anyone post a variant of the Jagged Bones MM from Sabway involving Fiends? cheers!

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Old Apr 10, 2008, 04:08 PM // 16:08   #478
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for the ascalon area,and some other parts i used a 600hp monk+smiter to vanquish(yes im a main monk) it and 2 aditional heroes to help take down monks,or boses
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 02:02 AM // 02:02   #479
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Anyone have trouble with Grothmar Wardowns? Tried many combos H/H,
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Old Apr 11, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #480
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Anyone have trouble with Grothmar Wardowns? Tried many combos H/H,
I did it in HM with Sabway and my mesmer using a build that I was experimenting with:

[build box name="Painful Promise HM Mesmer Build" prof=Me/A fas=7+1 ill=4+1 dom=11+1+2 ins=8+1 dead=9][Phantom Pain][Cry of Pain][Assassin's Promise][Pain Inverter][Shatter Delusions][Shrinking Armor][Energy Burn][Ether Signet][/build]

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It was quite easy.

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