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Old Nov 03, 2005, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #21
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There are a few variants of 55hp build that can work with all spellcaster professions. Not nearly as fast nor as resilient as the original Mo/W but they can solo the same places and notably minotaurs, griffons or hydrae and trolls.

If my memory serves me well, you'll be using one max attribute to deal damage (either smiting or any other from your primary profession), and about 9 in healing and protection. The rest goes to your primary attribute for its intrinsic bonus (fast cast, soul reaping, energy storage). The core of this build is survival with prot spirit, healing breeze and mending (plus orison if you need an emergy healing), energy management with balth spirit and essence bond, and 2/3 skills to deal damage (balth aura, symbol, zealot).

EDIT: Minotaurs can't dispell enchantments but devourers can interrupt them if they're lucky with a distracting shot.

Yes... actualy every profession can farm as long as they are /mo. And by farming i do mean 20+ minotaurs/griffons on you.
The problem is that with 55 health and prot spirit you take 5 damage each time you get hit, which is too much for mending and breeze to handle.
And the solution is.. to suicide before you start farming and switch to -20 health focus. Then you should have 13 health so spirit reduces damage to 1. So if you don't mind your deaths score, this works just as 55/bond build worked before.
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #22
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I myself Own the N/m invinsible build (the perfectioned ultimate 1) it survives 20% less then the M/W but kills 45% better!!!I can solo UW with it faster without extra risk.But remember when that stupid person (that i will not mension) gave away the M/W build to all,what happened? NERF NERF NERF!!! so i tell u 1 thing,u want this build : think about it and build it! If u dont,then stick to M/W wich costs 120k to make at the moment . Good luck have fun mate
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 08:34 PM // 20:34   #23
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I know this may sound a little newbish, but it messed with me at first, si ill mention it. If you have only 1hp, even with all your enchantments, you will still die in 1 hit, because the minimum is 1, not 10% of one
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Old Nov 03, 2005, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #24
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Yes... actualy every profession can farm as long as they are /mo.
This is 100% incorrect. I farm with my W/N with untainted (hint hint) sucess.
Having /mo is the uncreative way to farm.
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Old Nov 04, 2005, 12:56 AM // 00:56   #25
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Yes... actualy every profession can farm as long as they are /mo.
OOS

OMG So not true!

Dual shot, Mark of pain, Parasitic bond, Ignite arrow,
Troll Unguent, Spiked trap, Whirling defence, Poison arrow[E]

Curse 10
Wilderness survival 12(10+1+1)
Marksmanship 8(7+1)
Expertise 12(9+3)

Works extreemly well against Charr, Trolls and Minotaurs not very good against Griffons unless you limit their numbers to 1-2 (which is difficult).
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With an N/Mo I'd suggest you use Protection attributes with your monk and use Curses and Blood magic to deal damage with the necromancer.

Blood 10(8+2)
Curse 16(12+3+1)
Protection 10
Soul reaping 3(2+1)


Spiteful spirit, Parasitic bond, Mark of pain, Awaken the blood
Vampiric gaze, Aegis, Reversal of fortune, Life attunement

1-Start by casting Life attunement wait till you regen,
2-Use Awaken the blood.
3-Cast Parasitic bond to start agro,
3-Spiteful spirit on one foe
4-Mark of pain on another.
5-Use Aegis
6-Start hitting the foe with mark of pain on.

If you need healing


You can use Reversal which not only prevents damage but heals you 58
(80 (58+38%) with Life attunement)

or

Deal damage while stealing life with vampiric gaze will steals for 46
(deals 52 and heals 72 (52+38%) with life attunement+Awaken the blood)
(steal 46 heals 63 (46+38%) with life attunement no Awaken the blood)

Do not forget:

After 20 seconds or so your Parasitic bonds should activate healing you 126.
(190 (138+38%) with Awake the Blood +Life attunement)
(138 + Awaken the blood)

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Damage wise:


Spiteful spirit deals 41 to that foe and all adjacent foes exactly each time he attacks when and/if you've cast it with Awaken the blood.

Mark of pain deals 46 to all adjacent foes when you've cast it with awaken the blood and every time you hit.

You should have no problem killing Minotaurs, Ettins or Charrs with this.
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All calculations where done using the attributes this way:

Ex. Vampiric gaze deals/steals 18-52 in the descriptor.
18 is the minimum you can steal/heal at 0 attribute points in Blood magic.
52 is when you have 12 in blood magic.

52-18= 34.
34 divided by 12(attribute evolution from 1 to 12) = 2,833

2,833 X Number you wish to calculate+18(your 0 point) = Your total


Only Shadow damage, Holy damage, life stealing and healing give accurate numbers. Every other type of damage you must consider AL.

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Old Nov 04, 2005, 04:26 PM // 16:26   #26
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Yes... actualy every profession can farm as long as they are /mo.
OK. Now I see that this sentence means that only a /mo can farm, which is of course not correct and I apologize (need to work on my english, sorry, my mistake ).

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OMG So not true!

Dual shot, Mark of pain, Parasitic bond, Ignite arrow,
Troll Unguent, Spiked trap, Whirling defence, Poison arrow[E]

Curse 10
Wilderness survival 12(10+1+1)
Marksmanship 8(7+1)
Expertise 12(9+3)

Works extreemly well against Charr, Trolls and Minotaurs not very good against Griffons unless you limit their numbers to 1-2 (which is difficult).
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(...) And by farming i do mean 20+ minotaurs/griffons on you.

I thought we are discussing farming here and not soloing.
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Old Nov 05, 2005, 03:34 PM // 15:34   #27
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Your necro build won't work. First of all, you have no energy management. Aegis costs 15energy mark of pain 10 energy, and spiteful 10 i think. Thats 35energy already. Add in a parasitic bond, and a few reversal and you would have no energy. You would be barely keeping up by just spamming rewversal and that isn't even counting in recasting spiteful and mark of pain. I don't think that you have farmed before, but large mobs don't all just saty in one spot so you can just kill them of with mark of pain, but they form a circle around you so you would only be hittng like 5 monsters with mark of pain. Also, although 50% looks alot for aegis, it isn't. Since you have awful necro armor, you would be taking like 50 or 60dmg from minotours. Lets say you have 15minotours on you and only 5 hits you at every attack, 5 times 50 is 250 and lits say you can drop it down to 150dmg with reversal. You would be taking 150dmg in one volley and then you just wait until aegis goes out.....your dead.
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