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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:16 AM // 03:16   #221
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Ok, when it comes to farming, i prefer survivability over speed. To me its easyer to learn how to farm an area with an easy build that may take a little longer to accomplish its task than to run in with a complicated build (not saying that its complicated for everyone) and rack up a few deaths (and fustration) trying to get the hang of it. I used the cyclone axe build and found that timing is very important. I also noticed that you run the risk of taking a decent amount of damage when you use cyclone axe. The spirits interupts also got the best of me (yes i used bonnettis first, and yes it usually worked, but when it didn't i was dead). This being the case i modified the VwK build to a safer standard. It still works really well, just not as fast (but then again, this build wasn't really that fast to begin with)

Strength 10+1+3
Tactics 8+1
Restoration 12

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I use gladiators for the energy which is needed for this build.
I also use an Alem's Remedy (any +energy weapon should work, but i like this one cause it also halves skill recharge of spells)

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Resilient Weapon (keeps a decent regen up as they hex and cripple you)
VwK (duh)
Vengeful Weapon (since there is no attacking in this build, i use this to finish off the last few spirits)
Dolyak Signet (defense)
Bonetti's Defense (energy recharge/blocks thier interupt)
Defensive stance (another interupt block)
Wary Stance (yes, another interupt block, i'll explain below)
Signet of Stamina (makes thier attacks allot less to worry about)

Ok, i know this is gonna get thrashed in the first few replys but this is how it works....

I use the same start as the other build....basically wait for them to kill the king and get settled. First thing i do is cast Sig of Stamina. Then i cast RW, and VwK and run in (since you won't be attacking, it isn't neccessary to get near the casters, but i still do it so i don't have to wander far to pick up what they drop). As soon as i get into position i cast Dolyak. Vwk will end first, but if its recharge was halfed i use one of the stances (not bonnettis as its not charged by now), and recast it, if not i wait till RW starts to flash, then use a stance and recast that. I keep both of them up in this matter, recasting VwK when it recharges, or RW before it ends. By the time you think your gonna run out of energy for your next set of casting bonnettis will be charged from them attacking you, so use this as the next interupt blocker. I use VW as a quick heal in emergencys or as a final blow to that last spirit who didn't quite die yet.

This may not be the best skill set for the idea, but its what i came up with.
Also there may be a better weapon out there for the build, but its all i had at the time.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #222
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Ok, when it comes to farming, i prefer survivability over speed. To me its easyer to learn how to farm an area with an easy build that may take a little longer to accomplish its task than to run in with a complicated build (not saying that its complicated for everyone) and rack up a few deaths (and fustration) trying to get the hang of it. I used the cyclone axe build and found that timing is very important. I also noticed that you run the risk of taking a decent amount of damage when you use cyclone axe. The spirits interupts also got the best of me (yes i used bonnettis first, and yes it usually worked, but when it didn't i was dead). This being the case i modified the VwK build to a safer standard. It still works really well, just not as fast (but then again, this build wasn't really that fast to begin with)

Strength 10+1+3
Tactics 8+1
Restoration 12

Equipment
I use gladiators for the energy which is needed for this build.
I also use an Alem's Remedy (any +energy weapon should work, but i like this one cause it also halves skill recharge of spells)

Skills
Resilient Weapon (keeps a decent regen up as they hex and cripple you)
VwK (duh)
Vengeful Weapon (since there is no attacking in this build, i use this to finish off the last few spirits)
Dolyak Signet (defense)
Bonetti's Defense (energy recharge/blocks thier interupt)
Defensive stance (another interupt block)
Wary Stance (yes, another interupt block, i'll explain below)
Signet of Stamina (makes thier attacks allot less to worry about)

Ok, i know this is gonna get thrashed in the first few replys but this is how it works....

I use the same start as the other build....basically wait for them to kill the king and get settled. First thing i do is cast Sig of Stamina. Then i cast RW, and VwK and run in (since you won't be attacking, it isn't neccessary to get near the casters, but i still do it so i don't have to wander far to pick up what they drop). As soon as i get into position i cast Dolyak. Vwk will end first, but if its recharge was halfed i use one of the stances (not bonnettis as its not charged by now), and recast it, if not i wait till RW starts to flash, then use a stance and recast that. I keep both of them up in this matter, recasting VwK when it recharges, or RW before it ends. By the time you think your gonna run out of energy for your next set of casting bonnettis will be charged from them attacking you, so use this as the next interupt blocker. I use VW as a quick heal in emergencys or as a final blow to that last spirit who didn't quite die yet.

This may not be the best skill set for the idea, but its what i came up with.
Also there may be a better weapon out there for the build, but its all i had at the time.
Zealous axe + cyclone axe. That's the only thing I have different, so I can (almost) instantly charge bonetties.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47   #223
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Zealous axe + cyclone axe. That's the only thing I have different, so I can (almost) instantly charge bonetties.
as i said, i don't like cyclone axe due to the damage that is delt back to me by the spirits, and wary stance (when used as an interupt whenever its recharged) is more than enough to gain adrenaline for bonnettis
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59   #224
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Funny thing is that the first time i saw king i remember thinking "Oh Anet lemme have his sword" I'm sure these are it.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28   #225
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as i said, i don't like cyclone axe due to the damage that is delt back to me by the spirits, and wary stance (when used as an interupt whenever its recharged) is more than enough to gain adrenaline for bonnettis
Oops, sorry skipped over that part. I haven't really noticed to much damage being dealt to me, I use a very similiar build just with cyclone axe (no points in axe mastery). But hey, good luck on getting your dead swords
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27   #226
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Ok i am at work and cannot access wiki. What is the quest you take called? And can this be done with a ranger since this is all i have that is this far in game. I would love to get one of the non max high req swords with + 5 energy for my ele. My IGN is Nolle Bell if some one would like to sell one fairly cheap Thx for all the excellent info about this spot though.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 07:41 AM // 07:41   #227
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Now this farm is nerfed so much! I`ve got yesterday 2 Dead Sword after ~60 runs: both without max dmg: one has 14-21, and second has 14-20 but both had perfect ups.
P.S. Sorry for my english - I know it`s not very good. :/
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55   #228
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Hi there, do this with me monk 2nd run (2 days ago) req 9 dead sword max dam so they definatly havnt nerfed. Price for em is dropping though spamming for ages to only get 70k for it.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33   #229
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Hello really wanted to Farm dead swords with my warrior , the only problem is build a balanced build , because i just have Prophecies and NightFall .

So i cant run the 2 builds for warrior that have been showed before , because i dont have Factions warrior Skills ( like Triple Chop ....)

If theres annyone that can help me with a build i APRECIATE reallly

Thanks ..... Cheers !!
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #230
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Ok i am at work and cannot access wiki. What is the quest you take called? And can this be done with a ranger since this is all i have that is this far in game. I would love to get one of the non max high req swords with + 5 energy for my ele. My IGN is Nolle Bell if some one would like to sell one fairly cheap Thx for all the excellent info about this spot though.

Erm you could try trapping? although there not affected by conditions..well burning will work, and dust trap is the best and spike trap still does decent damage...practice with different builds
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16   #231
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onerabbit Can u help me with a build ??
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #232
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If you have prophecies you can do an Axe W/Mo with like

tripple chop
bonetti's defense
dolyak signet
watch yourself
I Will Survice
Healing Signet
mending
Life Vicariously

Go high in Axe Mastery and Strength with 8 in Healing Prayers and the rest in Tactics. Switching to a Vampiric Axe helps keeping your heal up during Cyclone Axe and deals additional Damage.

Slower but still easy.

just use skills in this order

Precast Mending>Live Vicariously

Aggro Group, Warriors will come after you, if they cripple you before you get to the Protection monks, cast I Will Survive, Target Prot monks and use

Dolyak Signet
Cycline Axe
Watch Yourself
Bonetti's Defense

repeate

Only reason Healing signet is there is if you need it once the warriors are down and the protection monks cast Reversal of Damage on themselves and you need a heal while dolyak or watch yourself is up
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:21 PM // 15:21   #233
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That warrior build is really slow and Triple Chop = Factions.
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #234
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Zodiak Thanks for the Help mate ... yeah its slow but it works ... the only problem like Faustus The Eighth said ...

----- > That warrior build is really slow and Triple Chop = Factions.

So i have a empty spot with this W/MO build :
tripple chop
bonetti's defense
dolyak signet
watch yourself
I Will Survice
Healing Signet
mending
Life Vicariously


I have Prophecies and NF .

Thanks
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 03:53 PM // 15:53   #235
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@ udk-birDy, would Riposte make is a bit quicker?..but that means changing weapon through-out farming..so cyclone axe ..change to sword riposte, change to axe...cyclone...etc etc..
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 04:01 PM // 16:01   #236
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So onerabbit u mean that i use a sword and axe , switch to use Riposte and Cyclone Axe .

riposte
bonetti's defense
dolyak signet
watch yourself
I Will Survice
Healing Signet
mending
Life Vicariously

i gonna try it thanks for the help mate

Ps : anny sword max damage ?
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04   #237
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What about using Hundred Blades and Ripotses?
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36   #238
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Zodiak Thanks for the Help mate ... yeah its slow but it works ... the only problem like Faustus The Eighth said ...

----- > That warrior build is really slow and Triple Chop = Factions.

So i have a empty spot with this W/MO build :
tripple chop
bonetti's defense
dolyak signet
watch yourself
I Will Survice
Healing Signet
mending
Life Vicariously


I have Prophecies and NF .

Thanks
Yeah sorry I ment Cycline Axe

Yes its slow, but it works. Tried doing that a few times before I didnt have the Ritualist Elite.

I dont know if ghosts or spirits can bleed so I dont know if Deathly Riposte would work. Gladiator's Defense makes them scatter like crazy though.

Cyclone Axe with Signet of Strength with high Axe Mastery and Strength can get the job done though, You could switch Healing Signet for Lion's Comfort and you could Swap out something else for some Armor Penetration Enchantment from the Monk side, though I find it gets interupted too often.

Hundred Blades may land you some massive damage on yourself if the Prot Monks have Reversal of Damage on enough Warriors and if your Sword Mastery And Strength are high enough unfortunatly.

It's always worth trying
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Old Mar 01, 2007, 06:42 PM // 18:42   #239
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If you put enough points into Axe Mastery and Strength you can try to do the following

Dolyak>Decapitate>Cyclone Axe>Bonetti

Decapitate will lower your energy and Adrenaline to 0 but it garantees a critical hit, it does a massive +X damage AND it inflicts unconditional deep wound on target

Since your energy is now 0, you only need 5 energy to get a cyclone axe off, which recharges fast enough to survive to use cyclone axe, to refill your adrenaline for bonetti, to recharge your energy

Decapitate is the largest single warrior spiking skill there is so far
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If you put enough points into Axe Mastery and Strength you can try to do the following

Dolyak>Decapitate>Cyclone Axe>Bonetti

Decapitate will lower your energy and Adrenaline to 0 but it garantees a critical hit, it does a massive +X damage AND it inflicts unconditional deep wound on target

Since your energy is now 0, you only need 5 energy to get a cyclone axe off, which recharges fast enough to survive to use cyclone axe, to refill your adrenaline for bonetti, to recharge your energy

Decapitate is the largest single warrior spiking skill there is so far
So u mean replacing vwk by decapitate for this run? Very bad idea.
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