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Carboplatin · Feb 18, 2008, 01:07 AM // 01:07

what armor and gear are you using? checkout don't feel no pain's thread in the link above. theres a video of it being done..

unless there was a change to the destroyers.. which i am not aware of

capblye · Feb 18, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM

joshuarodger · Feb 18, 2008, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Where do you see second weapon spell? I see only vengeful weapon.

Btw - Can it be done in Me/Rt?

If you follow the 3rd link in the 2nd post, above, it'll give you a link for a mesmer VwK. for some reason the first two links i posted aren't working.

joshuarodger · Feb 18, 2008, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblye

As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM
I just tried running this 6 times in HM and hammered each time. I am running a seperate set of armor with all the runes recommended and a set of Sw/Sh just for this, and ill tell ya, ya cannot get past the first Spirit Rift chain!
Even in NM now it appears the 1st SR chain takes ya down low, and its a close run thing ...
Three days ago, i spent about 3 hours doin the NM run, maybe 10% fail, if that, no problems ... now im only completing 50% in NM
Would be nice for someone else who has done the run many times to pipe in on NM and HM

i'm dervish but i just made the run in NM, no problems just like always. never could get it to work in HM for D/Rt. not enough armor and/or HP.

Antithesis · Feb 18, 2008, 01:51 AM // 01:51

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Originally Posted by capblye

As to why run it HM ... gold drops and dyes are far better than crappy whites in NM

Thanks Captain Obvious...i'll reiterate, why bother doing it in HM if destroyer cores are just as likely if not more likely to drop in NM - isn't that the point of the run?

capblye · Feb 18, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

LOL, if im Captain Obvious, then you must be Commander Pointless ...

Your question is pointless, as if you reread my post, i was quoting someone who misinformed by saying it could be done in HM with W/Rt ... Im saying i dont agree as i have tried repeatedly based on the W/Rt + R Hero and it doesnt work out anything like the Video.

And who says the point of the farm is JUST for DCores? Maybe for YOU, but not for ME
Get it now? Or must i state more of the obvious?

Thanks for the input Joshuarodger ... im sure you had no problem, as i dont either some of the time, but more and more, the destroyers on the right are killing off the dwarves faster than the ones on the left, so you start getting hit before your fully swarmed from both sides. This causes VwK not to be AS effective as it should be when getting hit from both sides. So you activate it earleir than you should and you dont get the full effect, plus, its gone too soon, and you get popped with a x5 Lament and x18 Spirit Rift chain that the other skills cannot keep up with.
The only time i get past the run is when both sides are close to swarming together, and i get the full effect of VwK.
That is happening less than it was a month ago.
Im still hopin some regular farmers of this will pipe in about the state of the run.
And if someone beats HM with a W/Rt + R Hero run, please let me know how ya did it!

Antithesis · Feb 18, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

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Originally Posted by capblye

LOL, if im Captain Obvious, then you must be Commander Pointless ...

Thanks, i like that. My cat's breath smells like cat food

You might want to re-read your own post, there's no quote and you're clearly responding to why it should be farmed in HM not NM, and mine was the post to ask that question.

The thread and run is primarily for destroyer core farming or can't you read thread titles either

capblye · Feb 18, 2008, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antithesis

You might want to re-read your own post, there's no quote and you're clearly responding to why it should be farmed in HM not NM, and mine was the post to ask that question.

Put your glasses on Pls :-P
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=13

Antithesis · Feb 18, 2008, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblye

Put your glasses on Pls :-P
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...9&postcount=13

Lol... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...7&postcount=22
Blink, blink.

boarderx · Feb 18, 2008, 06:10 PM // 18:10

HM nets you better drops and at least max weapons

NM gives you non-max weps and some golds

cores drop the same in both so if its simply cores you want do which ever is faster for you

if you want drops and cores then go HM (if your able to farm it)

its that simple, stop ripping each other's heads off, lol

joshuarodger · Feb 18, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblye

Thanks for the input Joshuarodger ... im sure you had no problem, as i dont either some of the time, but more and more, the destroyers on the right are killing off the dwarves faster than the ones on the left, so you start getting hit before your fully swarmed from both sides. This causes VwK not to be AS effective as it should be when getting hit from both sides. So you activate it earleir than you should and you dont get the full effect, plus, its gone too soon, and you get popped with a x5 Lament and x18 Spirit Rift chain that the other skills cannot keep up with.

The way i deal with the right side going through faster is by waiting on the right side and not in the middle. Just like the video shows (i think. i haven't watched it in a while). I click on the dwarven scout nearest to me and watch his HP. when he only has about 1/4 hp i start the SQ->QZ chain on my ranger, wait for QZ to pop up on effects monitor and run in, activate armor skill and vwk and wait for second scout on right side to die. when he's dead i stand right on his corpse and do the run. I also take Sig. of Pious Light and Mend Body and Soul in case my HP gets too low from the lament, spirit rifts you're talking about. Of course SoPL is a Derv skill that you won't be able to take, but there's surely an E-free warrior heal, other than healing signet (-40 armor during activation). Maybe something related to adrenaline, sorry not too familiar with War skills. After the dwarven corpse disappears you stop getting hit with Lamentation and it's just a matter of micro-ing your rangers SQ->QZ chain along with your armor skill and VwK. Using hotkeys for your Hero skills is the best way i found to manage those skills and yours at the same time.

The times i really have problems is when the left side gets killed first. I think it works better to "thin out" the enemies on the right side (with VwK) before the left side starts to attack you. That way you don't get hit with as many Lament, SR's at the same time. I can show you in-game, if i'm not busy at the time, if you want. Add me and PM me if you see me online.

Antithesis · Feb 18, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by boarderx

its that simple, stop ripping each other's heads off, lol

It's just a bit of good-natured banter

capblye · Feb 19, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58

I usually run NM Solo, and only tried the ranger hero in HM ... are you referring to HM Josh?

joshuarodger · Feb 19, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by capblye

I usually run NM Solo, and only tried the ranger hero in HM ... are you referring to HM Josh?

no, i'm referring to normal mode. i mistakenly thought you were too. sorry for the confusion. i always use my ranger so vwk can be on constantly. i guess if you're having problems maybe you should try the ranger method, otherwise i'm not really sure what to tell you. Good Luck though.

spirit of defeat · Feb 19, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

old news....