Curse

Gor Peace · Oct 01, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Hello again guys,

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question about sliver armor. Read my message above.

One more thing:

what do you guys think it's the best armor combination for this farm? I am thinking in kurzick armor (nice look

), but I've noticed that the armor set named 'infiltrator's armor', which have the following bonus - +15 Armor (vs. Piercing damage ), Reduces Crippled duration on you by 20% - has no longer the 'Reduces Poison duration on you by 20%'.

All this blablabla to say that wiki is not updated, look by yourself:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Assassin_armor

Was this nerfed? Anyway...I was thinking in the 'Infiltrator's Armor' to prevent any trouble with traps...but once you got crippled by one it's better to restart the run...

So do you guys agree with me that 'Infiltrator' it's useless for this farm?

Hmmm....since the energy bonus from the sword/totem axe and the earth focus/galigord's stone scroll is enough (I assume it's enough, even with shock causing you exaustion), 'Shrouded Armor' is also useless...

Then...it seems to me the best option to buy 'Valkyrie's Armor' which gives +35 health. Maybe it can helps against a wicked degen caused by elementalists constructs...but probably, it won't be enough. So...

All crappy armors?

Bloodied Blade · Oct 01, 2006, 09:14 PM // 21:14

...you really have no idea whatsoever what Shadow Form does, do you?

Watch the vid and tell me if you see him get hit. Then decide if armor is important.

Shadow Form makes all attacks against you miss and all spells fail.

Gor Peace · Oct 01, 2006, 09:38 PM // 21:38

oh dear...I'm not stupid. I can read you know?

'For 5...17 seconds, all hostile Spells that target you fail and all attacks against you miss. When Shadow Form ends, lose all but 5...41 Health. '

Oh! Amazing...I can read -.-

Dude ofc I knew that. I know it works with any armor...even naked, but I like to cast Shadow Form when already aggroed the mobs. I always let my life drop to 150/200hp, then I cast it [not if any interrupters, mesmers etc.]. I'm sure that +35 hp could do 1 second difference...depends where you are farming I guess. 35 hp would take 0,5 seconds to disappear from my health bar in constructs farm and since afflicted mesmers can interrupt me, maybe isn't too smart to tank before cast Shadow Form.

Apologies if my english it's not easy to understand.

Bloodied Blade · Oct 01, 2006, 10:22 PM // 22:22

If you're casting after aggroing then I would go for +hp, since the other damage reductions are all highly situational. Constructs are going to kill you regardless of what you're wearing if shadow form isn't up...Contruct + mob just hits that hard. Your best option is to just shadow form and find a way to make it work. On most of them you just keep going until they eventually die. I usually die once on the necro and then can kill him and get out alive (first time SF/sliver armor usually ends before he dies, 2nd time the mob is HUGE and it's easy).

Evilsod · Oct 01, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

There is no reason at all to cast once you've started agro if your an assassin. Shadow Form lasts that fricking long the extra second you've gained (and 200 health you've lost) isn't profitable at all. Interrupts can surprise you... specially from Shiro'ken Necromancers, not to mention that you might get a Kitahs Burden on you. Its easier to just cast beforehand, even if you do check the spawns. If your down to 35 health your gonna die anyway, if you have more energy, you'll be thankful if you start getting DP.

Not like it matters... this farm is more efficient as an E/A using Shadow of Haste. More energy and more damage and if you really want +health armour then it doesn't matter in the slightest on your ele.

Dark Escape seems very inferior now. SoH can be used as a running skill much better since when you renew it you don't return to your original location (which i think is a bug tbh). Or you can simply use it to break agro once you get through then cancel it with Dash and walk off once they return to normal.

I'm not entirely sure what Elementalists Construct you've been fighting... the one i've fought has no method of Degen at all. It does have 2 skills that bypass Sliver Armour... but its not worth the effort imo. Shiro'ken Elementalists have plenty of degen (9 second burning ftl) but if your down to 35 health... again... your pretty much screwed anyway.

darknesstears · Oct 02, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

Anyone here know where the collector for a +30 health +1 earth magic 20% is?
thx

dr_k · Oct 02, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

there are two collectors for this focus actually

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Plague_Idol
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Stone_Horn

plague idols are however a lot easier to collect

Desires · Oct 02, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

Well I still just use my refuge ;p. But anyways I may be posting a new video eventualy not as much into farming with this as before but been recording a few recent runs to some of the other places and might exand on things like sunreach in it due to the pms I'm still getting... We'll see starting classes and stuff this week so may be a little while.

darknesstears · Oct 02, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

After few tries at sunreach i noticed that my sliver armor never targets him

am i doing something wrong?

Also Song of the mists is killing me during kaolin farm :s
i need help lol

Khz · Oct 02, 2006, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Where can i find that warrior boss that is at the end of video (not sunreach) and what does he drop ? thanks

ectospasm · Oct 03, 2006, 05:35 AM // 05:35

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

Vass · Oct 03, 2006, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Maybe your problem is that you're shadow stepping in, ectoplasm. I've tried it as well but I usually end up losing a pack of bad guys that would otherwise be following me in when I get to the whatever boss I'm targetting, which means less damage from sliver.

I love this build. As an A/E with 16 SA 12 earth I've made about 150k in 3 days, farming maybe 2 hours aday, with it. In the optional slots I use obsidian flame, aftershock, and shadow refuge. Equipment is my pair of shocking +5e oni daggers of enchanting. Works very well. If you get sliver to target the boss, its as good as dead 90% of the time.

zadinos · Oct 03, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

When im fighting Sunreach in most cases 90% of em silver never targets him.
Try like me to kill all around until silver start to target him , it eventually will do.
Dont worry there will still be lots of enemys left to finish him of.

Rah Balder · Oct 03, 2006, 08:44 AM // 08:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khz

Where can i find that warrior boss that is at the end of video (not sunreach) and what does he drop ? thanks

Theres 2 Warrior bosses besides Sunreach in the Video. The first one is Chkkr Ironclaw and he can be found in Mourning Veil Falls southwest of Durheim Archives. The one at the end is Reefclaw Ragebound that can be found northwest of the Leviathan Pits in Gyala Hatchery (Explorable).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ectospasm

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

Dude. This is really pissin me off. This build is amazing. Wat Desire made is GW History. If you cant make it work, it is you that suck and you that is pathetic. Dont blame the build cause its simply amazing.

Evilsod · Oct 03, 2006, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ectospasm

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

Lol. There is only 1 answer to this.

You sir, SUCK.

If you think it can't kill anything... so be it, 1 less person farming Kaolins using the only solo-farming method available for them, more drops for the rest of us. 7 Domination Staffs 4 Accursed and 2 Protection disagree that it can't kill for shit.

zadinos · Oct 03, 2006, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Dont be so mean , the guy only need some praktice. I tryed to learn my friend to farm Sunreach but it was impossible for him , eheeh.
I agree with you the build is great but you need some practice and most important concentration.
I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him?
Have not tryed with rust cos i was after other bosses had other skill setup.

Rah Balder · Oct 03, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by zadinos

I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him?

I dont think its possible to kill Ironclaw with this build. Wat you need to do is a bit of ''mob control''. Pull hes group into the Warden group and then pull the 2nd Warden group into Ironclaws group and with a bit of luck he should be the only one left. Let him regen then go Gank him!

Desires · Oct 03, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ectospasm

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

As others have said its the person running the build not the build itself. This is not a 55monk build where you just turn your enchants on run into the trolls and watch for them to start blinking and renew.

Evilsod · Oct 03, 2006, 01:57 PM // 13:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by zadinos

Dont be so mean , the guy only need some praktice. I tryed to learn my friend to farm Sunreach but it was impossible for him , eheeh.
I agree with you the build is great but you need some practice and most important concentration.
I was trying to kill Chrrk ironclaw with this build and its kinda hard, anyone managed to kill him?
Have not tryed with rust cos i was after other bosses had other skill setup.

Slagging off a build becuase your too crap to do it and saying i need practice are entirely different things. That post was slagging off, nothing more, nothing less.

If you can't do enough damage to kill a boss, the answer is usually simple. Either bring more damage skills or lure more groups

Its always funny killing Scar Eater in about 4 seconds then slaughtering about 10 other things before you decide to flee.

pegasux · Oct 03, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by ectospasm

this build is totally pathetic for an E/A
maybe its better for an A/E but so far its useless to me.

i fought maybe 4 bosses and they almost died, maybe 1/4 health left by the time shadow form ended & silver armor. only boss i killed was konru tainted stone. he didnt drop a green.

i have just the opposite. 16 earth & 12 arts. with a millus's pillar & razazans fervor+ a 25nrg scroll. 106dmg with tenais crystals & aftershock is 105 +76 kd dmg. plus ive used shock, etc. nadda. sux...

i shadow step in. hit sf, glyph, silv armor. aftershock, crystals. still isnt enough to kill the bosses. by the time i go thru this process SF & SA are running out. its a nice concept but really, it sucks. even with the 20% enchant its still not enough time to do anything significant. id like to try it with an assassin to see if the few extra seconds are significant. but i doubt it, cause with 12 earth its not enough damage output and i have 16 in earth as an ele. it should take down any boss with as much damage as im dealing. i give up. back to the old methods.

your hilarious...this build is one of the best there is for farming any boss. the build is not pathetic...you are for bashing a build that your aren't good enough to run. i run a e/a since i don't have a a/e and can farm the heck out of the bosses. 7 kaolin accursed, 3 kaolin protection, 5 kaolin blades, 2 kaolin domintation, 7 sunreach, plus the other outside the armory and eternal grove. yeah it's a pathetic build...lol. i went from 400k to over 1 mil in 2 days...having to buy ectos and shards just to make room. Keep up the great work desires.