Curse

High Moral · Mar 06, 2008, 03:13 AM // 03:13

EDIT!!! Explanation of title:
Its not a real build, its just three things and all points in restoration, hardly called a build.. =)
Skills, I mean,, you can be a retarded monkey to play it.
Runes, I just said that I do have runes, but I have noticed that 3 VwK is enough no matter what runes and stuff I have..

Everyone writes all these uber builds that can be used in 1 spot, and you have to buy this and this and this.. I know everyone knows about the Vwk, but if you dont want to spend money on all the skills, and buy a extra armour set, you dont have to.

Location: Arkjok Ward / Senji´s Corner
Monsters: Tusk Hunters / Vermins

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

All points in restoration, no need for the rest. (See attachment).

(If you want, bring Smoothing memories if you are watching tv, and miss to vwk by a second. But only needed if you are lazy..)

Armour:
I had full Ghost Forge on my armor, so I used that, worked like a charm, Superior Restoration, but you can use minor also. Superior just gives you more breathing room, (like it is needed).

See: Picture two..

(There are 3 groups of Tusk Hunters, Run North for the two other group and there is a zone. Zone out and in and run back..) Very fast.

Conclusion:

No real complicated build needed, No skill needed, No attention needed, No special armour needed, No runes Needed.

Unholy Tank V · Mar 06, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

wait, so in the title you say and I quote "no need for build, skills, runes" and yet I can point out al of those things n this post

kratimas · Mar 06, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

No need for skills,

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

Or do you mean you don't have to have any skill, to use this build?

I'm so confused

High Moral · Mar 06, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

I mean, Skills to use the build... You do need 3 skills obviously.. =)

Timotheos · Mar 06, 2008, 08:28 AM // 08:28

looks interesting enough ^^. I'll try this on my mesmer, i hope it works with only 12 in restoration

Masao · Mar 06, 2008, 08:58 AM // 08:58

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10175262

Um, /close.

Vilaptca · Mar 06, 2008, 09:06 AM // 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masao

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10175262

Um, /close.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10263379

Um, /different build.

ReZDoGG · Mar 06, 2008, 11:08 AM // 11:08

Tip.... You said there is no need for the rest of the attribute points. If you use a weapon spell, why not put the rest into Spawning? You have longer durations on your weapon spells...

philo · Mar 06, 2008, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Can you also kill the vermin boss with this "build"? And are you really sure a 12 in Restaration will suffice for that purpose?

Just wondering ...

/edit:
What about raptor nestlings? Have you tried it on them by chance?

Covah · Mar 06, 2008, 03:48 PM // 15:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by philo

/edit:
What about raptor nestlings? Have you tried it on them by chance?

Need to bring an anti interupt.

Batou of Nine · Mar 06, 2008, 05:14 PM // 17:14

Uh, this is just a dumned down version of the original/classic echo VWK build.

Yours is just less efficient, less effective and less interesting.

Funny how this pattern has lingered on for the 2.5+ years i been around. Someone takes a build changes a skill or two, or omits here and there, or simply renames the build and call it "their build".

I think the old fashioned "Search" or "Googling" or "pre-research" has officially fallen off the map. Maybe its just the younger generation is THAT lazy. honestly.

Lol, oh well. Idk why i felt like ranting, sorry. Enjoy yet another of 100's of recycled builds!

cheers.

Zahr Dalsk · Mar 06, 2008, 05:18 PM // 17:18

This guy is a random scrub. Ignore him.

Masao · Mar 06, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilaptca

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10263379

Um, /different build.

What build? All I see is 3 skills, undetailed armor specifications and unused attribute points.

I don't see how this works against Vermin with all the KD but I'll try it.

Will post back when attempted.

EDIT: Seems like I linked ReZZ's build, meant to link the Tengu/Skale build which is exactly the same but with more Mesmer skills.

teotuf · Mar 06, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Batou of Nine

Uh, this is just a dumned down version of the original/classic echo VWK build.

Yours is just less efficient, less effective and less interesting.

Funny how this pattern has lingered on for the 2.5+ years i been around. Someone takes a build changes a skill or two, or omits here and there, or simply renames the build and call it "their build"

he's not calling this his build... nor is he even calling it a build at all

what he is doing is just showing how UNIMPORTANT builds are. there are so many builds that revolve around VWK, and each one is claimed by some random person as "their build" when in fact, they all branch off of the same idea: keep your self alive and hold up vwk.

Qdq Swi · Mar 06, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Skills:
Resilient Weapon
Vengeful Was Khanhei
Arcane Echo

all u did was take the rt/me vermin farmer build.. take away a couple skills.. and put in resilient weapon and then come and call it urs? thats stupid.. this has been around for donkey years. nothing good, special, new or a revelation at that.

btw.. this will never work on hm vermin..

Masao · Mar 06, 2008, 05:36 PM // 17:36

This doesn't work on Vermin in HM.

I tried several runs. First run I used the basic build for Tengu/Skale with Resilient Weapon instead of Elemental Resistance. Cast Physical Resistance and Resilient weapon, then Arcane, then hit VWK once in range.

3 VWK isn't enough to kill them in HM, even when spamming Ancestor's Rage and Vengeful Weapon, since they shadow step away then Death's Charge back in.

I then tried with Mantra of Resolve since I was getting KD's on my Ether Signet casts, but that used more energy than I could spare, and 3 VWK doesn't kill them anyway.

Summary: Doesn't work on Vermin, and there are better builds to use on Tusks.

Qdq: Link to Vermin build?

philo · Mar 06, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masao

This doesn't work on Vermin in HM.

Didn't expect it to, tbh.
If it were this easy for any profession to farm vermin HM, then I guess celestial weapons would be down to a couple of pennies.

Tusked howlers/hunters are a completely different story. What works well on them, needs not work out at all on vermin.

Batou of Nine · Mar 06, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33

What i said earlier was just a general observation. I wasn't harping on the OP or his points. It just got me thinking and so i posted my thoughts... I'm all for people posting ideas, builds, thoughts of their own! Post on!

Quote:

Originally Posted by teotuff

what he is doing is just showing how UNIMPORTANT builds are. there are so many builds that revolve around VWK, and each one is claimed by some random person as "their build" when in fact, they all branch off of the same idea: keep your self alive and hold up vwk.

Uhm, that was exactly my point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

all u did was take the rt/me vermin farmer build.. take away a couple skills.. and put in resilient weapon and then come and call it urs? thats stupid.. this has been around for donkey years. nothing good, special, new or a revelation at that.

btw.. this will never work on hm vermin..

heh, like i said. But i don't think it should go as far as calling his thoughts "stupid" eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

This guy is a random scrub. Ignore him.

You insisted on posting just to make that point? yay for trolls? This scrub has a right to his thoughts opinions and thoughts too right? At least i was commenting on the threads subject.

cheers.

Qdq Swi · Mar 06, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masao

Qdq: Link to Vermin build?

The Rt/Me uses Arcane Echo and VwK to get 3 VwKs. Its the same build in the OP with additions like Soothing Memories and whatnot. Its on wiki.. but its not for HM. The fact that a build of 8 skills built on the same basis as the OP's build means that there is no way in the world that it could farm Vermins in HM. As was previously said, even if your lucky enough to get out unscathed.. 3 VwKs cant take down a single Vermin.

Edit : Im pretty sure u can 600/smite them in HM. Im doing it now with thalkora infact... only getting crap though ;s.

Mobs 1 by 1.. just tried to take em all on... too much damage when soa is down for that tiny amount of time.

Masao · Mar 06, 2008, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qdq Swi

The Rt/Me uses Arcane Echo and VwK to get 3 VwKs. Its the same build in the OP with additions like Soothing Memories and whatnot. Its on wiki.. but its not for HM. The fact that a build of 8 skills built on the same basis as the OP's build means that there is no way in the world that it could farm Vermins in HM. As was previously said, even if your lucky enough to get out unscathed.. 3 VwKs cant take down a single Vermin.

Edit : Im pretty sure u can 600/smite them in HM. Im doing it now with thalkora infact... only getting crap though ;s.

Mobs 1 by 1.. just tried to take em all on... too much damage when soa is down for that tiny amount of time.

Ah ok, I just assume farming builds are for HM nowadays, since NM is just a waste of time to farm.

I've heard you could farm Vermin before in HM or something, but I wasn't around when it was possible.

Oh and as for VwK taking down vermin, I actually managed to kill one...

...ok so I cheated and used Vengeful and Ancestor's. Oh and I managed to cast 5 VwKs with lucky HSR.