Curse

Oblivious Moose · Mar 16, 2008, 03:34 AM // 03:34

[card]Angelic Protection[/card] @ 16 heals all damage over 90 per second.
used in conjunction with [card]enduring harmony[/card] and [card]echo[/card] can get this skill to on a target for 45 seconds. (used on hero, casting on you)

now, in hard mode, its REALLY easy to fight mobs that top the 90 dps. so, is it possible, to use this in conjunction with other skills, to stay aliave easily? like ps, sb and such. or really anything else.

reason behind this, is to spark some idea's about paragon farming.

with my tight schedule, i dont hve time to make and test out multiple builds in one day. so i reach out to the gw community to help with this, and hopefully put more life into paragons everywhere.

sidstyler89 · Mar 16, 2008, 03:37 AM // 03:37

It sounds like a good idea, but I don't have a paragon to know the effectiveness. But I think if this idea were involved in a build, it would have troubles with degen (varying with what skills you can bring along)

Asha Rai · Mar 16, 2008, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Pretty sure this wont work, since it only heals damage _over_ that amount. So with 16 leadership, if you get hit for 100 dmg, you get healed 9, but take 91.

RussBus · Mar 16, 2008, 04:15 AM // 04:15

but its not per hit, after you take 91 the healing keeps adding up and in HM some places you can easily be hit for alot more than 91 per second.... only problem is that its not solo if you do as suggested, but not a bad idea to bring along on a HM vanquish or something posibley

Racthoh · Mar 16, 2008, 04:22 AM // 04:22

Angelic Protection is not a shout or chant.

Shayne Hawke · Mar 16, 2008, 04:27 AM // 04:27

Seems to me like it'll work in a large group setting, but fighting small amounts of foes can put you in great danger. There's probably a build or two out there that accomplishes this same idea and doesn't have so much of a risk.

Dark Tykane · Mar 16, 2008, 04:33 AM // 04:33

The description seems vague
but wouldn't it easily be done by just going with 15 AL just like spirit bond builds
only without prot spirit?
that way it would heal hits from most things lvl20 and above
with some sort of regen it could heal through aatxes
400+ hit (cant remember actual number for a 15AL against aatxe) means that you would be healed 310 per hit

thats only if i'm reading the description right tho

samcobra · Mar 16, 2008, 05:49 AM // 05:49

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Angelic Protection is not a shout or chant.

bingo. It's a skill, so enduring harmony doesn't work on it. Echo does work, but still... stick to being a partybot or DPS turret on paragon. That's what they're there for.

MasterSasori · Mar 16, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by samcobra

bingo. It's a skill, so enduring harmony doesn't work on it. Echo does work, but still... stick to being a partybot or DPS turret on paragon. That's what they're there for.

QFT.

Rangers and Para are just not suited for farming. An inconvenient truth, but a truth nonetheless.

MercenaryKnight · Mar 16, 2008, 07:34 PM // 19:34

Anybody can farm anything. Make your paragon a 600 hp /monk tank and bring a smiter hero and you can farm. If you need spellbreaker bring that as elite, if you need more enchants (from only having 2 regen) bring a second hero to help bond you up.

MasterSasori · Mar 16, 2008, 07:53 PM // 19:53

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Anybody can farm anything.

Anybody can farm anything but the question is, is it efficient?

Terraban · Mar 16, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Obviously, the OP has no idea how the skill works....

Taking 90 damage per second will kill someone in about 5-6 seconds, assuming they don't get spiked within a second, which is very likely.

I guess it might have some use with SB...but why not just use PS?

Oblivious Moose · Mar 18, 2008, 06:04 AM // 06:04

thanks for flaming my idea.. anyway.

ya ok im wrong about enduring working on it, but still.. 20 seconds of it up with echo might still be possible.. need to look into this..

i dont want cookie cutter farm builds.. im looking to spark ideas and just create more, so far the paragon really has 2-4 builds that the commuity actually approves..'

i dont have time to work out any kinks and actually find something that works, so this is why im asking the gw community.. ide much rather not 600 smite with a poaragon.. seriously.. if i wanted to do that i would relog on my monk..

another thought across my head recently, is that you could be an amor giant, and fight a melee mob, of only sword users, using [card]bladeturn refrain[/card] along with some minor heals, and of course damage, it might work.. just a thought tho.

Terraban · Mar 18, 2008, 06:11 AM // 06:11

Just totally forget about Angelic Protection, the majority of the playerbase has, and for very good reason.

And wanting to be different is not a reason to play a horribly inefficient build.

Your idea of an armor giant will not work, multiple armor bonuses won't stack, and you won't be able to get enough armor for "minor" heals to cover it.

It's not going to work for a Paragon unless you mostly do a Monk build with a base of a Paragon. I'm sorry, but it is the truth.

JONO51 · Mar 18, 2008, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I've ran sliver/that elite glyph that recharges spells instantly farmer + hero. It works okay but takes forever and is boring. Just added a few motiv heal shouts and your good to go.

Oblivious Moose · Mar 18, 2008, 08:03 PM // 20:03

i never even thought of using sliver on my para, ide love to give it a whirl, can you elaborate on it more please?

which brings me to another idea, lame as it might be. is the use of [card]zealous vow[/card] + [card]Farmer's Scythe[/card] for damage + energy management, while using other skills to stay aliave.

keep the ideas rollin!

Dark Tykane · Mar 19, 2008, 03:04 AM // 03:04

this could've actually worked
stop flaming is all bull shit
the truth is though, it's too much of a hassle

I thought it would even be doable by any hero too, but the thing is that the heal is triggered after the damage, so the spirit bond concept doesn't work and if you use protective spirit then you will not be healed at all.

Clarissa F · Mar 19, 2008, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Saying an idea isn't good and giving your reasons is not flaming. Saying "ZOMG UR BILD SUXXORS GTFO n00b!" might be flaming. Terraban might be a bit abrasive, but he makes a good point.

Since Enduring Harmony is only for shouts or chants, the idea is moot.

JONO51 · Mar 19, 2008, 03:56 PM // 15:56

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Originally Posted by Oblivious Moose

i never even thought of using sliver on my para, ide love to give it a whirl, can you elaborate on it more please?

It was something along the lines of
12 motiv
12 earth magic
Glyph of Renewal
Sliver Armor
Song of concentration
Armor of Earth
<Few motiv heals here>

Bonder Hero
12 prot
Life Bond, Balth spirit etc

I tried the dead sword farm and it work. Song of Con was used before sliver to prevent interruption from savage slash. All the energy and practically 24/7 sliver. Cant remember if it was NM or HM.