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teotuf · Feb 28, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

These different farming methods obviously all have their uses. But I wondered if you just wanted to get money, which way would be fastest. So I figure if everyone post their data about the farming efficiency (please be honest and clear), we can have a actual quantitative comparison of the different farms for ectos.

So if you've used a particular build for a period of time, and have done enough runs to draw general conclusions about the efficiency of the run please post the data. (Follow the following format)

Also if there is any part where you feel that is really far from the truth, please do tell. (I've been doing 25-30 min 55/SS runs for the longest time before I met someone who showed me the proper way... -_-)

So I'll start...

NM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (55/SS):
Average time per run: 14 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per hour: 3
Cost per hour: 2k

HM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (55/SS):
Average time per run: 26 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per run: 1.6
Cost per hour: 1.1k

NM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (600/Smite):
Average time per run: 15 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per run: 3
Cost per hour: 2k

HM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (600/Smite):
Average time per run: 18 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per run: 2.5
Cost per hour: 1.6k

NM Underworld Smites (A/E or E/A Fire)
Average time per run: 9 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.7
Average ectos gained per hour: 4.5
Cost per hour: 6k

NM Underworld Smites (VWK)
Average time per run: 15 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.7
Average ectos gained per hour: 2.8
Cost per hour: 4k

NM Underworld Smites (Rt/W)
Average time per run: 12 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.7
Average ectos gained per hour: 3.5
Cost per hour: 5k

NM Underworld Smite (W/Me solo)
Average time per run: 9 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.7
Average ectos gained per hour: 4.5
Cost per hour: 6k

NM Underworld Smites (D/Me solo)
Average time per run: 17 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.7
Average ectos gained per hour: 2.5
Cost per hour: 3.8k

NM Underworld Smite+Chaos Plains+Spawning Pools+Bone Pits(E/Mo):
Average time per run: 90 mins.
Average ectos gained per run:8.5
Average ectos gained per hour:5.67
Cost per hour: 666g

NM Tomb of the Primeval Kings Terrorwebs + Riders (A/E or E/A Sliver)
Average time per run: 7 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.2
Average ectos gained per hour: 1.7
Cost per hour: 0k

HM Tomb of the Primeval Kings Terrorwebs + Riders (A/E or E/A Sliver)
Average time per run: 6 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.2
Average ectos gained per hour: 2
Cost per hour: 0k

NM Maguuma Jungle Ravager (Triple Chop Warrior):
Average time per run: 30 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.02 [Thanks to spun ducky]
Average ectos gained per hour: 0.04
Cost per hour: Negative Cost - Invaluable Amusement

TarjaTeOrteyn · Feb 28, 2008, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Thats about it in a nutshell. Only thing to add is VwK Tank, Terra Tank, derv, and random builds that some people prefer

My Lipgloss is Cool · Feb 28, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

You forgot Solo SV with a N/Mo 55 <.<

Bo Fairfield · Feb 28, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22

some of your calculations with runs/hour are messed up. i.e

Quote:

NM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (55/SS):
Average time per run: 14 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per hour: 3
Cost per hour: 2k

That should be 4 runs/hour, making it (assuming 1minute between runs on average:

Quote:

NM Underworld Aatxes + Smites (55/SS):
Average time per run: 14 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.75
Average ectos gained per hour: 3
Cost per hour: 4k

teotuf · Feb 28, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

well, i know this isn't a complete list... what i acutally wanted is for everyone to fill in on it, so we can have a complete one

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo Fairfield

some of your calculations with runs/hour are messed up. i.e

That should be 4 runs/hour, making it (assuming 1minute between runs on average:

the cost and ecto gains are both PER PERSON, so since it is a duo, 4 runs actually only cost 2k

Captain Miken · Feb 28, 2008, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Quote:

NM Maguuma Jungle Ravager (Triple Chop Warrior):
Average time per run: 30 min
Average ectos gained per run: 0.1
Average ectos gained per hour: 0.2
Cost per hour: Negative Cost - Invaluable Amusement

10% chance of getting an Ecto seems far too generous for this run.

RyuujinZERO · Feb 28, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

My VwK NM runs (smites only) usually take about 30-35 minutes, and typically net 0-2 ectos, usually less rather than more (say 0.75 average), so it's about the same as the others. I would say VwK is one of the more fun ways to farm though since it's almost relaxingly easy as farming techniques go =p

Marverick · Feb 28, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

I'm pretty sure 600/smite is faster in HM than in NM... might want to double check those numbers.

cerb · Feb 28, 2008, 01:32 AM // 01:32

I think it is way too inconsistant to conclude anything.

Sometimes we can get 6-7 ectos for a set run, and none for the same run at another time. I have gotten up to 5 ectos in Chaos Planes only, and none for the next few subsequent runs.

teotuf · Feb 28, 2008, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerb

I think it is way too inconsistant to conclude anything.

Sometimes we can get 6-7 ectos for a set run, and none for the same run at another time. I have gotten up to 5 ectos in Chaos Planes only, and none for the next few subsequent runs.

for all of the original runs I've posted, I've taken the average over 50 runs for each of them, so statistically even though we still can't confidently predict how many ectos you'll get in a particular run, it's pretty safe to predict hwo many ectos you'll get per run on AVERAGE.

one exception to that is the ravager "farm"... I've gotten my first ecto there after 4 hours of "farming" it... so i just kinda pulled a 10% drop rate per run out of my ass, and would not like to waste another 12312412414 hours to complete the 50 runs -_-

spun ducky · Feb 28, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Miken

10% chance of getting an Ecto seems far too generous for this run.

I did a lot runs of this one summer when I was stuck out in the middle of no where and I only got about 3 ectos from about 150 runs or so.

cerb · Feb 28, 2008, 01:49 AM // 01:49

Yeah I know what average means, but you're limiting yourself to the Smite runs... I don't think that is enough to generalize but oh well, do what you want =)

And aatxes+smites 55/SS in NM 14 mins seems a little slow to me... We can do that+ice king (which means you also have to clear the chamber), and Ice King is AT LEAST 1:30 (since 1:30 after you take the quest spawns the last wave) in 15-16 mins.

teotuf · Feb 28, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by cerb

Yeah I know what average means, but you're limiting yourself to the Smite runs... I don't think that is enough to generalize but oh well, do what you want =)

And aatxes+smites 55/SS in NM 14 mins seems a little slow to me... We can do that+ice king (which means you also have to clear the chamber), and Ice King is AT LEAST 1:30 (since 1:30 after you take the quest spawns the last wave) in 15-16 mins.

i've never actually farmed in the chaos planes, only did it for fun a few times. but if you have a general idea about average time + ectos, it can be added as a NM labrinth + icy waste + chaos plane run, which would just be a new entry on the list.

as for the 14 min aatxe smite run, it includes first terrorwebs room, cuz there are about 6-8 aatxes there. but... you also have to keep in mind that not everyone is as experienced as you =P i'm sure the average pick up teams in ToA can't even do a 20 min ice king run, hell... half of them probably can't even do it period...

flclisgreat · Feb 28, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06

my NM vwk smite runs take 18- 20 min.... and thats more or less the average as far as i know

Nemo the Capitalist · Feb 28, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08

uw sucked after loot nerf...

it reall ysucked when they droped in price to 4k

Scarn · Feb 28, 2008, 12:28 PM // 12:28

NM UW Smite+Chaos Plains+Spawning Pools+Bone Pits(Solo):
Average time per run: 90 mins.
Average ectos gained per run:8.5
Average ectos gained per hour:5.67
Cost per hour: 666g

boarderx · Feb 28, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

just a couple to add

NM Smite (W/Me solo)
9mins

NM Smites (D/Me solo)
17mins

nets the usual X ectos per smite run

Elite Bushido · Feb 28, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05

i get about 2-3 a run with my VwK warrior but i did 10 runs wit my A/E and got NOTHING...
so i think its just random. the builds dont matter except for how fast they are

meat shield · Feb 28, 2008, 11:10 PM // 23:10

rt/w nm smites
12 min
10 if luckey whit spawn

thebullion24k · Apr 18, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

Shit, posted in the wrong thread....

Sorry mods.