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Old May 24, 2008, 04:07 PM // 16:07   #21
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A/E sliver works fine on them, but usually leaves acouple left... well i do anyways, takes too long to clear them out. If you use Ebon Battle Standard of Honor, they take over 24 dmg from Sliver, and thats is more than enough to clear them out. As for daggers, HM would make them flee if you don't pull them against a wall or something.


Daggers work good one them, but seems to kill ur drop rate big time.
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Old May 24, 2008, 04:39 PM // 16:39   #22
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I tried this yesterday and they simply flee too often in HM. Even by me just walking to them to try to atk them, they flee. <_<
So i only get like 4 at a time to stay with me. This is uneffective timewise and for e-mgmt. The time it takes me to clear all of them with my ele is the time it took me to kill one small group. I will keep trying to get them to that spot you pictured.

May be useful to know what kind of wpns and mods you used to have an idea. I could get them close to me with a staff but as soon as i equip daggers they scatter. So I also tried just using a 20% enchant daggers to avoid the swapping, this helps a bit on starting the combo earlier but not with the scattering.

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Old May 24, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #23
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They dont scatter if you pull them were I showed.
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Old May 24, 2008, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #24
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you can t kill them, you need to kill the last hp each time by the first 2 kills only
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Old May 25, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40   #25
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You use five tenais or crystal waves, and then sliver till like 5 are left, and then one last tenai.
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Old May 25, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #26
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Does AoE damage from [death blossom] gets bonus from [ebon battle standard of honor]? If yes its cool.

Also, make sure you have 13+ points into daggers and sitch target for each combo, or the group gets left with little hp and you will need to bash each one till it die but wont be able to make a full combo.
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Old May 25, 2008, 05:39 AM // 05:39   #27
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Uhhhh just wondering what daggers did you use?
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Old May 25, 2008, 10:09 AM // 10:09   #28
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Zealeus Steel Daggers of Fortitude. Doesnt really matter what they are though...
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Old May 25, 2008, 10:51 AM // 10:51   #29
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Zealeus Steel Daggers of Fortitude. Doesnt really matter what they are though...
Switch to of enchanting!
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Old May 25, 2008, 11:19 AM // 11:19   #30
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Finally got my 'sin to level 20 yesterday, been mucking around with this build some. Haven't done a whole lot in any of the campaigns yet, but I did do a Plains of Jarin run to see how it faired vs. my Wammo build.



This was my first (test) run, so I've still got some tweaking to do. Two things I'm definitely going to change next go round: drop Heart of Shadow for Shadow Refuge, and drop Wild Strike for Golden Fang Strike. Deep Wound on demand is worth losing a little damage. And some more reliable healing will help a ton versus PBAoE and touch skills.

You only need 14 Shadow Arts to keep SF up permanently. Since the trader is completely sold out of Superior Runes anyway (who didn't see that coming? grumble), I was going with 15 at first. Messed about some and dropped it to 14, and with an enchant mod and GoS, the duration still overlaps recharge by a second or two. Currently, I'm at 14 Shadow, 12 Dagger, and 11 Crit. Sure I could put more into Dagger Mastery instead, but now I get 18 seconds of Critical Agility, which all but guarantees it's going to refresh itself before it runs out.

Fastest? No, but, I'm a Warrior at heart and I like direct damage, punching things in the face, so this suits me nicely.
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Old May 25, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39   #31
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Lul this has inspired me to remake my assassin ;d I had one back in Winter when I farmed Tombs of Primeval Kings with him... Always had a problem with either running out shadow form, only having arcane echo to chain it for 42 seconds.

But imo don't drop Wild Strike for a deep wound. If you meet a blocking stance... Bye-bye energy or chain. Or both.
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Old May 25, 2008, 01:07 PM // 13:07   #32
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since when does death blosem zealous only affects 1 foe ?
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Old May 25, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15   #33
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Ye this updates made me reroll my old sin =P
^^ lvl 3 and already with build prepared to farm xP
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Old May 26, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17   #34
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Switch to of enchanting!
I have an aweasome Chrysocola Staff of Enchanting, weapon swapping ftw.
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Old May 26, 2008, 11:38 PM // 23:38   #35
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Yep needs 14+ dagger mastery.
No energy issues with zealous daggers, and a +15e 20% enchant staff

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Old May 27, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07   #36
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use a Lotus Staff of enchanting with Earth att so that I could cast Sliver faster and still have 20% to keep SF longer.
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Old May 30, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13   #37
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What armor should I be wearing?
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Old May 30, 2008, 07:01 PM // 19:01   #38
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Here's what you do for Vaettirs:

[skill]Glyph of Swiftness[/skill][skill]Deadly Paradox[/skill][skill]Shadow Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Lesser Energy[/skill][skill]Crystal Wave[/skill][skill]Teinai's Crystals[/skill][skill]Ebon Battle Standard of Honor[/skill]

For the last skill you can use a run skill (not needed, as the run there you can avoid every mob just by walking) [skill]Sliver Armor[/skill] for extra damage, or even [skill]Earth Attunement[/skill] for extra energy management.

With both EA and GoLE, you should have zero energy problems, and while I think the dagger chain with DB is going to have a higher damage output, that's continuos AoE which causes HM scatter, when I've farmed this area with my ele in HM, using the above build, they don't scatter because the damage is in one packet only.
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Old May 30, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54   #39
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The reason why the dagger chain works vs Vaettirs is because of their 160AL vs elemental damage. I've been using [Light of Deldrimor] here for some extra damage at rank 5 along with [Sliver Armor]. I might try out [Alkar's Alchemical Acid] but that might be demanding on energy. Another option is [Ebon Vanguard Sniper Support] with a solid rank in Ebon Vanguard.

Too bad they're not fleshy, [radiation field] and [viper's defense] would be fun here.

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Old Jun 01, 2008, 01:13 PM // 13:13   #40
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What about the drops???? XD
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