Curse

Winds · Jun 15, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

I believe i do it the normal way, kill the grasping in the beginning and then dash out of the aataxes, then run all the way to the chaos planes. I have 12 fire, 16 shadow arts. Its the build almost everyone is running, any ideas why its taking me alot longer? And no, i don't believe im on hard mode

Nightow · Jun 15, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

How many dream riders and mobs of mindblades do you kill at once normally?

In the beginning of the plains, you should be able to kill 3-4 at once.

farmerfez · Jun 15, 2008, 11:30 PM // 23:30

do you use lava font rodgort or the other build?

Patsrule711 · Jun 15, 2008, 11:33 PM // 23:33

ya you should be grouping 3-4 dreamriders at once.

Joshthor · Jun 15, 2008, 11:34 PM // 23:34

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Originally Posted by Winds

I believe i do it the normal way, kill the grasping in the beginning and then dash out of the aataxes, then run all the way to the chaos planes. I have 12 fire, 16 shadow arts. Its the build almost everyone is running, any ideas why its taking me alot longer? And no, i don't believe im on hard mode

I wondered the same thing when i first started, your probably only aggroing 1 rider at a time, get 3-4 and you will get the 20-30 times (ive never gotten below 25 though)

Winds · Jun 15, 2008, 11:35 PM // 23:35

I am using mor/lf, but i just bought inferno and phoenix since i read that its faster for mindblades if thats the only thing your farming. Group 2 or 3 in the beginning? They usually run away whenever I attack them, its hard to group them up.

Nightow · Jun 15, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

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Originally Posted by Winds

I am using mor/lf, but i just bought inferno and phoenix since i read that its faster for mindblades if thats the only thing your farming. Group 2 or 3 in the beginning? They usually run away whenever I attack them, its hard to group them up.

MoR/LF is superior but I know ppl have different opinions on this so I will just say use what works best for you. If you tried the MoR/LF and saw that your runs were a bit faster, use that instead or vice-versa.

As to your loosing aggro problem, try to keep your HP below 100 (Let SF wear off (without aggro!) and then recast. Also helps if you use a vamp weapon set in between aggroing mobs.) and bring a flat bow for pulling.

Killed u man · Jun 16, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

Personal best is 18 minutes.

Loaded fast, dashed to quest, aggrood intire room, kill stuff fast. Dashed to Chaos Plains. (I DIDN'T wait for the Squidies that shock you, I just ran right past them -They usually don't even shock you-)

Agrood first 4 groups (Got bad luck on aggro, so I could have cut +-a minute here), then the bottom 3 (Also got relatively bad aggro, could have cut another minute) and then the last 2.

In overal, it was a very good run (Also got 7 ectos

) and I think I could have done it in 16 minutes.

I ain't surprised if people get 14-15 minutes tough, simply because I don't cut any corners etc. (Believe me: cutting corners, "luck spawns" on Behemoths can easily save U minutes)
Just think of this: If it looks faster to do it that way, it most likely is:
It mathematicly is faster to aggro as much "dream riders" as possible, than if you were to do one by one. 4 Seems the most U can get in the beginning, so that simply is the fastest way to do it. (I've done 5 before, but they spawned really lucky, close to eachother and they had enormous radius before breaking aggro)

BLOODGOAT · Jun 16, 2008, 12:48 AM // 00:48

My runs are usually 25-30 minutes, but I only take 2 Banished at a time, take an extra minute to kill 6 Aatxe in the opening room with my mob of Grasping, and aggro/mob all Terrorweb and the 9 Mindblades that spawn with them at the end.

I love getting 2-4 ecto a run, also. (Sarcasm for any of you who haven't installed the sarcasm extension yet.)

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 16, 2008, 02:17 AM // 02:17

It is just learning the spawns and best positions for killing your times will go down slowly.

Jenn · Jun 16, 2008, 02:55 AM // 02:55

hit me up in game some time and I can take you on a run. mine are about 25 minutes.

Shaz · Jun 16, 2008, 04:51 AM // 04:51

I use the phoenix/inferno build and my run usually take 20-25 min. I aggro pretty much like what "Killed u man" did in the above post. The grasping should take about 1 min. Once at the chaos plains, I aggro 6 dreamriders, 4 alone one and 2 from the group with wailing lord. Once this group is done, it is usually between 9-12 min. Then aggro the 5 near the statue, 3 and 2 with wailing lord. Should be about 16-20min when done with these. Then the last 4, 2 and 2 with wailing lord. Should be 20-25 when done on average.

milan · Jun 16, 2008, 09:13 AM // 09:13

My first run took just over 50 minutes, second run brought it down to about 35, I'm hovering at around 25 minutes now.

I had the same problem with Dream Riders breaking aggro but I wasn't lowering my health so I'll give that a go.

Fire The Nutter · Jun 16, 2008, 09:30 AM // 09:30

Yup thats what I was going to say, let SF run out and then renew just after to get 50 health. As long as you maintain agro after that as much as possible you wont regen and the monsters wont scatter.

Best I manage is 3 riders, then 3 riders then 2 and then 1 (and terrorwebs) its mostly just practise getting the times down, im sure I could be doing it a lil quicker but im comfortable with this setup. Using MoR/LF btw, tried Phoenix/Inferno and didnt like it but I might try again soon now ive done more practise.

masta_yoda · Jun 16, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

im averaging 18-22 mins with ease mor + lf, 4 at start 3 at stat and final 2 + the 8 terrors

A Leprechaun · Jun 16, 2008, 10:20 AM // 10:20

My runs are genergally about 30-35 mins, but I really don't rush what-so-ever.

~A Leprechaun~

Jhadur · Jun 16, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Getting the first 4 Riders to group is probably the hardest part of getting fast runs.
I managed a 25min run earlier and I'd finished the Clear the Chamber quest at the start.

Zhoul · Jun 16, 2008, 12:05 PM // 12:05

A normal run consists in 25-30 minutes. If you guys are doing 15 minutes I would really like to see a screenshot with the "/age" command saying that.

Apart from that, aggro the first 4 Dream Riders when u reach Chaos Planes, then 3, then 2 in the end. Fastest way.

NYC Elite · Jun 16, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

I usually do ~30 minutes but yesterday I had horrid spawns all over twice in a row. 40 minute runs with no ecto drops ftl. Used Phoenix + Inferno.

Warriorsrmint · Jun 16, 2008, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Which build is the MoR one? The only one i was aware of was Infermo/ Phoenix.