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Dante the Warlord · Jun 24, 2008, 01:36 PM // 13:36

First question:

This isn't a ranting thread, but i was just wondering how much terra tanks generally make in this group. Many terras have given me different numbers but from what i can see they make at least 3-6 in one run... Im only asking cause every terra ive met is too greedy to get consets and ends up breaking the entire group apart O-o

.... And all the time i made the group by spamming for hours upon hours. XD

Second question:

What is usually the team build, im not sure cause i always go with 2 HB 2 w/me ursan 3 terra tanks E/A or E/Me and 1 perma sin A/me, ive been told its different.

Anyways im really asking because the hardest part seems to be getting people and succeeding in UW, cause sometimes we go down to 8/10 or 9/10 and fail the mission...

If this is in the wrong place please move it to where i can get the accurate responses... Or if this just seems like a rage topic, then just close it cause i don't want trouble...

EDIT: Mods im not sure why you put this under warrior... Im not asking anything really about the W/Me ursan... can you move this to the farming forum... its quite unrelated....

joshuarodger · Jun 24, 2008, 02:07 PM // 14:07

there have been times when i, as a TT, make 0 ectos and others where i've gotten 5. for this reason i never object to buying a conset but then again it's all just random. the most up-to-date team build, AFAIK, is 3 TT (either E/Me or E/A), 1 permasin, 2 ursans, 1HB and another Mo/Me monk with WoH as elite and arcane mimicry. the mimic monk usually uses arcane mimicry to copy ursan and only uses it for HB if something goes haywire. so basically 3TT, 1 sin, 3 ursans and one HB.

Masseur · Jun 24, 2008, 02:14 PM // 14:14

and why W/Me? Just curious? I'm a Ranger,so I have just about as high armor, but a lot more against Ele dmg and can't get in groups. Seems there are either specific Warrior/Mesmer skills they like or they are so bad at this game they think they need a Tank.

Dante the Warlord · Jun 24, 2008, 02:19 PM // 14:19

W/Me is for Ether Signet i think

buckscrib · Jun 24, 2008, 02:27 PM // 14:27

I just started hearing about these Terra's? What are they?

Dante the Warlord · Jun 24, 2008, 02:46 PM // 14:46

terras are elementalists using the elite skill obsidian flesh or shadow force, basically it means they can take MASSIVE dmg without dying

theonetheonlybruce · Jun 24, 2008, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

W/Me is for Ether Signet i think

its not[Ether signet] its[signet of stamina] but they carry both and its because war have highest armor but personally i think its stupid because u go goood monk and trust me i monk hb and its mindless hp spam with occasional seeding any call is fine as ursan and the extra health is more of a burden to me the good because i heal these war with 1000+health and there bar dosnt move because +150 heal moves it like no where does

joshuarodger · Jun 24, 2008, 02:49 PM // 14:49

standard terra tank bar is

[obsidian fles][stoneflesh][mantra of ea][stone strik][glyph of swif][arcane echo][sliver armor][lava font]

there's also a new perma SF bar with which uses cons to maintain SF permanently

[deadly paradox][shadow for][glyph of lesse][earth attun][sliver] and some other earth damage skills

terras can complete entire quests in the UW by themselves while the rest of the team completes the rest of the quests, making for a very fast UW completion time.

also rangers have high ele armor but there aren't very elemental damage foes for the quests that the ursan team completes in the UW. only 6 terrorweb dryders i believe. therefore warriors are the best choice for the ursans due to their extremely high armor vs physical damage.

and they do take [[ether signet] so they can get E back quickly to jump back to ursan if it happens to run out.

malko050987 · Jun 24, 2008, 02:51 PM // 14:51

Isn't W/Me for the stances? With 12 in Inspiration the Mesmer stances will last a long time - and they carry on into HB, so you get the bonus. I have no idea which stance they use, or maybe they have all four elemental stances and switch between areas (Mantra of Water in Ice Wastes, by example), but since I never Ursan, I don't know. Or just the ele resistance/phys. resistance for the added armor.

A Terra Tank was (is?) an Elementalist (usually) using [Obsidian Flesh][Stoneflesh Aura] and a bunch of other skills. They keep aggro and can stay alive pretty much infinitely. Nowadays, it's a E/A with perma-shadow form and Sliver, since the UW speed run requires consumables and that allows an elementalist to keep up Shadow Form permanently.

Dante the Warlord · Jun 24, 2008, 06:50 PM // 18:50

Eh i just started a E/Me with all the skills, cost me all my money

...Are you suggesting that the E/A is far more superior to the terra tank E/Me? Yea i can't even get a group to accept me without saying *u noob*

Oh as for my first question... I think that E/A tend to make more money in ectos and gold drops (5 of 7k at least) and if the entire group share the costs sometimes the run can be as profitable as 2k in an hour or more....Its not that fair IMHO.... What say you terra tanks in UW HM?

HariTec · Jun 24, 2008, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Warrior/Mesmer is often the favored combo in Underworld because of the Mesmer stances from the Inspiration line, coupled with the high inherent armor and sheild carrying capabilities. Commonly, the bar includes:
[I am the strongest] Obviously for more damage before you go into ursan
[Physical Resistance] Before Ursan when fighting Aatxe and Grasping
[Mantra of Flame] Before Ursan (terrorwebs) or Behemoths (Flame Trap)
[Mantra of Lightning] Before Ursan fighting Charged Darkness
[I am unstoppable] Avoids Cripple of Behemoths traps
[Ether Signet] Immediate energy recovery when out of Ursan

Add in Ursan and a rez signet and you are set to go.

Usually you can go with Inspiration @ 12. Alternatives are to remove two mantras and replace with
[Elemental Resistance]
[Signet of Stamina]

joshuarodger · Jun 24, 2008, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante the Warlord

Eh i just started a E/Me with all the skills, cost me all my money

...Are you suggesting that the E/A is far more superior to the terra tank E/Me? Yea i can't even get a group to accept me without saying *u noob*

Oh as for my first question... I think that E/A tend to make more money in ectos and gold drops (5 of 7k at least) and if the entire group share the costs sometimes the run can be as profitable as 2k in an hour or more....Its not that fair IMHO.... What say you terra tanks in UW HM?

E/A isn't far superior, both accomplish the same thing. but the E/A can move at a normal speed whereas the E/Me has Obs Flesh on all the time and moves with a 50% reduction.

Dante the Warlord · Jun 24, 2008, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Ah i see so the E/Me is just a little slower... I would imagine that the E/A has its withdrawals, particularly in the 4-horsemen quest

Dante the Warlord · Jun 25, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Arg i cannot get ANY group AT ALL!!!!!! I always get kicked cause i can't run E/A.... and im broke cause i spent all my money on E/Me this is so unfair...

Age · Jun 25, 2008, 09:08 PM // 21:08

What does that have to with Warrior just solo some it it using visages and phyisical resistance.There is build in farming farm which is where this should be.