Curse

oh_oh_joe · Jul 07, 2008, 08:54 PM // 20:54

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Originally Posted by King Sasuke

Ok i need help with the Charged Blackneses they like come out of no where when i get to the first Behemoths and usually are right at the entrance of the Chaos planes and i think they are the same group so what do i do?

I also had a hard time getting past these. I tried a few different skills in the 8th slot, but then I was always hard on energy.

I ended up sticking with Glowing Gaze, and simply use Birthday Cupcakes when I run up the hill.

The only thing about this method is when you group the riders you have to be careful not to break aggro.

1 cupcake a run > killed by charged

If you can handle your energy (I am most comfortable with Glowing Gaze), Flame Djinn's looked good in the vid.

King Sasuke · Jul 07, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by oh_oh_joe

I also had a hard time getting past these. I tried a few different skills in the 8th slot, but then I was always hard on energy.

I ended up sticking with Glowing Gaze, and simply use Birthday Cupcakes when I run up the hill.

The only thing about this method is when you group the riders you have to be careful not to break aggro.

1 cupcake a run > killed by charged

If you can handle your energy (I am most comfortable with Glowing Gaze), Flame Djinn's looked good in the vid.

Ok ill use some Birthday Cakes and maybe Flame Djinn in the 8th spot.

King Sasuke · Jul 08, 2008, 03:52 PM // 15:52

Ugggghhhh okay i made it to the Chaos Plains finnally i can kill the first group of Banished and the wailing lord then when i get aggroe more Mindblades and another Banished i run out of energy im using the Glowing Gaze and i have 71 energy so please help me i dont want to wast anymore of my money.

A Leprechaun · Jul 08, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

King Sasuke: In the bottom right corner of your post there is a button marked "edit" please edit your previous post rather than creating a new one.
Double posting = Ftl.

~A Leprechuan~

oh_oh_joe · Jul 08, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by King Sasuke

Ugggghhhh okay i made it to the Chaos Plains finnally i can kill the first group of Banished and the wailing lord then when i get aggroe more Mindblades and another Banished i run out of energy im using the Glowing Gaze and i have 71 energy so please help me i dont want to wast anymore of my money.

If you are running Glowing Gaze I don't see how you can really be hard on energy. I have it max at times.

(I maintain Fire attune on recharge) Just start with the SF combo > fridgid armor (use this on recharge basically) > gole (use this on recharge and only with 2x Burning speed imo) > burning speed (use this when it goes down, make sure you have fridgid armor) > Glowing Gaze (use this as soon as burning speed drops, or after you renew burning speed after it drops. use this on recharge as much as possible)

It is easy once you get in the rhythm. I haven't done many runs, because I recently came back from a 3 mo break, so I am not as experienced as others, but its my 2 cents.

I use an enchanting weapon and fire effigy from factions (meh, dont have a 20/20 offhand) and it works just fine.

Elite Bushido · Jul 08, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

its because he has 71 energy meaning that he is using a offhand that takes away 1 energy regen. THAT'S his problem right there

King Sasuke · Jul 08, 2008, 09:03 PM // 21:03

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Originally Posted by Elite Bushido

its because he has 71 energy meaning that he is using a offhand that takes away 1 energy regen. THAT'S his problem right there

Oh okay well ill get a different Flame Artifact and see if that helps and thanks joe.

Nightow · Jul 08, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by King Sasuke

Oh okay well ill get a different Flame Artifact and see if that helps and thanks joe.

Use the one from this guy for best results.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Yiwong

DeviantTeknique · Jul 08, 2008, 09:42 PM // 21:42

i'd say that unless you are using lava font, a 20/20 isn't going to contribute much since burning speed has no recharge and is practically instant cast and attune is almost always up.

Mines currently empty (just +12), but when all is said and done it'll will likely end up with +HP while enchanted and a -cripple duration setup for running through traps, maybe a 10HCT for frigid armor since it has the potential for one extra burning speed before a recast of SF

Ofc a 20/20 will be optimal for more then just this, and since I'm doing fast runs with a blank offhand it may not even be worth it to make a specific offhand for this

illidan009 · Jul 10, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

This might be a bad question but where is the damage? I can't look at the videos right now I'm in a library...but can someone explain? Looks like you'll survive pretty easy w/ this build but the aoe dmg...?

ryan__ryan · Jul 10, 2008, 07:58 PM // 19:58

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Originally Posted by illidan009

This might be a bad question but where is the damage? I can't look at the videos right now I'm in a library...but can someone explain? Looks like you'll survive pretty easy w/ this build but the aoe dmg...?

the burning from burning speed because of the -50% damage nerf to SF its probably the most efficient way to kill things

Dire Nova · Jul 11, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03

I was unable to clear the chamber in about 6 runs.

Most of the graspings would agro on me, but a few would hang back. I would burn the ones one me but when they were hurt, they would retreat and the others would move in.

It was a ridiculous cycle - I never ran out of energy, I kept them burning quite a bit but their tag-team behavior kept me from killing them.

I probably need to watch the videos :P

Dire Nova · Jul 11, 2008, 05:47 PM // 17:47

ah yes, the old "monsters always flee left trick"

I have never really had to do that before

pepper46 · Jul 11, 2008, 07:13 PM // 19:13

I tried it twice but both times the behemoths are blocking the path. How do i get past them?
or is this just a bad spawn?

ReZDoGG · Jul 11, 2008, 08:22 PM // 20:22

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Originally Posted by Dire Nova

I was unable to clear the chamber in about 6 runs.

Most of the graspings would agro on me, but a few would hang back. I would burn the ones one me but when they were hurt, they would retreat and the others would move in.

It was a ridiculous cycle - I never ran out of energy, I kept them burning quite a bit but their tag-team behavior kept me from killing them.

I probably need to watch the videos :P

Stay in Normal Mode. HM would take alot longer, and enemies will flee. Bring them against a wall or ledge tends to help at times.

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Originally Posted by pepper46

I tried it twice but both times the behemoths are blocking the path. How do i get past them?
or is this just a bad spawn?

Bad spawn, not much you can do about it. But, If you use Cupcakes for running, you can take [Deaths Charge]. Deaths Charge might give you a chance of getting by them blocked ways, but not always. I haven't used it enough to really test it out completely, but it should help when you need it most.

R.Shayne · Jul 11, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

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Originally Posted by pepper46

I tried it twice but both times the behemoths are blocking the path. How do i get past them?
or is this just a bad spawn?

Bad spawn thing, resign and start again. I have had as many as 4 bad behemoth spawns in a row so I wasted 4k. Just keep trying and eventually you will get a good spawn.

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

Stay in Normal Mode. HM would take alot longer, and enemies will flee. Bring them against a wall or ledge tends to help at times.

I have to agree with ReZDoGG here, when farming ecto I don't think HM or NM makes that much a difference.

Elite Bushido · Jul 12, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

^^it doesnt make ANY difference

Marverick · Jul 13, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

You could probably kill the Behemoths. Put on Flame Djinn's and lure out the traps, then put on a melee weapon and go into melee range so they stop using Healing Spring.

manitoba1073 · Jul 13, 2008, 06:46 AM // 06:46

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Originally Posted by Golgotha

Just don't kill the Cursed Riders.

Why not. you can just pull them away from where the mindflayers spawns and they also drop ectos.

dime basha · Jul 13, 2008, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Question....

excuse me if this is daft or ignorant but my last 2 runs when ive got to the planes the spectres have stripped my sf........ why is this?
is it another nerf?