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Old Aug 08, 2008, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #1
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http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Perma_Sliver_Form

I was in ToA just selling ecto's and a sin running that bar said he had gotten 9 ectos in 50 minutes. I got the build from him and he left, now im suck figuring out whether or not this can even be done.

Problems:
1. Killing off 1 Banshee With only sliver
2. Avoiding attaxs with no speed boost
3. If you decide to bunch Graspings and Attaxs all together, like the old burning days, will it only kill the graspings so you can run to the Chaos Planes.
4. The recharge of your only damage dealer is long enough to give Mindblades, Banished, and Wailing time to regen health if there are not initially killed.

Now this may have many problems but i have a hunch we can go back to quick Chaos Farming, put your mind together boys ectos are hotter than ever.
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:03 PM // 17:03   #2
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if you are talking about the chaos planes, they now spawn stuff with sig enchant removals... aka shadow form no workie thar
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #3
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recent update has changed the chaos planes yet again...


Underworld changes

* Reapers now become invulnerable once all quests have been completed in the Underworld.
* Replaced Cursed Dream Riders with Banished Dream Riders.
* Shortened the distance Banished Dream Riders will follow a player.
* Banished Dream Riders now stand stationary and overlook a small complement of added Wailing Lords.
* Mindblade Spectres' base attack is now ranged.
* Increased the Health of Mindblade Spectres by 500.
* Reduced the run speed of Mindblade Spectres.

http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Game_updates
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #4
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WHAT?! since when? i thought they took that out
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05   #5
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Replaced Cursed Dream Riders with Banished Dream Riders.
What enchantment removal?

EDIT; Even BEFORE they removed it, SF still worked. You just couldn't CLEAR the plains. the kurzick eater doesn't know what he's talking about

Anyways, the build should work. It would be annoying to group them all up, as they're ranged, move slowly and don't follow far. You'd be limited to one group at a time.

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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:06 PM // 17:06   #6
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actually latest update, they removed cursed riders, all enemies( in plains) are able to be farmed.
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:07 PM // 17:07   #7
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Yea theres no enchant removal it just takes too long, with that new 500 hp bonus its like farming attaxs smite runs on a warrior is quicker and more efficient now only 1-2 ectos a run for 20 mins, not as good as 20 mins and 4-5 at chaos
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:35 PM // 17:35   #8
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I do recall before sliver sf being used in uw and no speed boost was used - and probably the burning build didnt have speed boost neither ( burning speed for 5 secs i dont regard as a speed boost ).
You kill the grasps and stroll about and aatxes tend to give up the chase after a while - im sure other uw sins explain the process or have in other posts already.
As for saying 9 ectos in 50 mins - he may have had a lucky run after resting uw for a while , in uw ( and gw wholey ) nothing certain drop wise ... i recall seeing loads of ppl saying wow uw and sin gave me 10 ectos ... but how many have they got previous run- i know a guildie who was happy he got 12 in 1 run and was swearing after 4 runs which he only got 1 ecto a time lol.
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38   #9
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What enchantment removal?

EDIT; Even BEFORE they removed it, SF still worked. You just couldn't CLEAR the plains. the kurzick eater doesn't know what he's talking about

Anyways, the build should work. It would be annoying to group them all up, as they're ranged, move slowly and don't follow far. You'd be limited to one group at a time.
The mindblades do follow far.. i was able to group 4 spawns of 3-8 mindblades together at the statue. Its only the dream riders you cant pull.

I did a run, took 45 mins and i got :

4 Golds
5k of merch loot (full inventory)
4 ectos
1 lockpick

All in Hard mode. The slowest part IMO was killing off the graping darknesses.. but that was like 5 minutes, so its still VERY doable

EDIT: Picz or it dint happen -



anybody wanna count? 30+

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Old Aug 08, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06   #10
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33 minutes into the farm I had cleared the first four banished dream riders and the ones around the back, decided to go get the ones at the dryder door.



, and the final results after 50 minutes and clear all of chaos plains



At the end I had 9 ecto, 3 gold, 1 scroll, 1 sapphire, and loot.

[Glyph of Swiftness][Deadly Paradox][shadow form][Glyph of Lesser Energy][Ebon Battle Standard of Honor][Sliver Armor][Air of Superiority][Light of Deldrimor]

Drop [Light of Deldrimor] it was useless. [Dark Escape] worked better for me.
I was using my raptor build but Ultima's build looks better.

Forgot to mention this run was Normal Mode but didn't make difference, both seem to take the same amount of time.

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Old Aug 08, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #11
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If you can't use AoS because you are saving that quest for Norn rep farming, what would be a good skill to replace it with?
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21   #12
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If you can't use AoS because you are saving that quest for Norn rep farming, what would be a good skill to replace it with?
[Intensity] looks pretty good, I just use [Air of Superiority] as a e-manager so not really needed, just ensure you have 30E to recast Shadow Form.

Forgot to mention, you can hard mode farm the Fenrir cave with this build too to get Norn points. (where the new maul drops). Bring [Radiation Field] as your optional skill, run skill is good because you have to run to the cave.

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Old Aug 08, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #13
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OwZTkY/8ZS6jHRnBZwFkHKXcCCA go go, requires a little thought on energy but not much if you know basic math and timing, you know when to cast, gg.. farms pits and aataxes too if you wanna waste your time
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 11:40 PM // 23:40   #14
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I haven't got any of those Eotn skills so does this build still work?

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:A/..._Planes_Farmer
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 11:44 PM // 23:44   #15
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Afaik it does.
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Old Aug 08, 2008, 11:46 PM // 23:46   #16
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how are drop rates in pits? i dont really want to "waste" my time
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 01:11 AM // 01:11   #17
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after using the earth & fire builds personally i think the fire build is faster. Drop rates was same for me, average 2-5 ectos per run. If u keep your health around 55 with fire build everything goes much faster since they dont kite from LF (nm). Only diff i could tell was sliver took longer 1hr 25 minutes, fire took 52 minutes. And as for pits i dont think its worth the extra time it takes bc i have only ever got 1 ecto from there (per run), and thats clearing whole area.Of course that could be my over farming of uw. *shrugs
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 03:03 AM // 03:03   #18
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this takes too long ~1hr

i can do a smite run in 9/10 minutes (NM) and 6 smites runs will net more than 1 chaos planes clear im sure
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 05:27 AM // 05:27   #19
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Any good sin farm smite build ?
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Old Aug 09, 2008, 06:39 AM // 06:39   #20
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Any good sin farm smite build ?
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