Curse

yannato · Sep 04, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

hey everyone,

have not seen anything on this so i thought i would post.

ive been experimenting with this build and it works really well so far. but im am missing a skill and i think it could be alot more effective. can some1 please give me some advice on this.

code: [ ;OANEY0xe86kH2DAAtY9AfoPkHA]

tell me what you think.

the savage nornbear · Sep 04, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31

use a 55?

....

with [[healing breeze]

komma · Sep 04, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

erm this looks like the 55 build to me....what is the advantage of running a 330hp instead of a 55hp, besides more hp providing more room for error....you could try throwing in healing breeze, shield of absorption, or shielding hands.

royal mercenary · Sep 04, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

this is a 330hp, didn t notice the retribution ?
You might add healingbreeze as cover (so you can go NM fow)
or pain inverter or iau (if meeting kd ) [PvE skills might be handy]

the savage nornbear · Sep 04, 2008, 08:41 PM // 20:41

If someone could explain to me the benefit of going 330 over 55 that would be great. I'm not much of a farmer.

yannato · Sep 04, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

i got a 55, im experimenting.. il go look at some pve skills now. thanks guys

Harvester of Sorrows · Sep 04, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Simple 330hp is more to heal.
With protective spirit and 55 HP you take roughly 5 1/2 damage, with 330 HP you take 33 Damage.

Chuk Charcoales · Sep 04, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02

A 330 is more easily able to deal with life stealing and degeneration to a greater degree than a 55 due to there being more health. A 600, even better. Also, retribution, and in the case of a 600, holywrath, make more use out of increased health because they deal back a percentage which is applied after prot spirit.

the savage nornbear · Sep 04, 2008, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuk Charcoales

A 330 is more easily able to deal with life stealing and degeneration to a greater degree than a 55 due to there being more health. A 600, even better. Also, retribution, and in the case of a 600, holywrath, make more use out of increased health because they deal back a percentage which is applied after prot spirit.

Thanks. so it just a build that can be used in different areas then? It's not "better" than a 55 just has different uses?

My Lipgloss is Cool · Sep 05, 2008, 01:06 AM // 01:06

Anywhere this would work, a 600 with a smiter would work better.
Anywhere this would work, a 105 would work pretty much as well.

Silicon Based · Sep 05, 2008, 11:33 AM // 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by royal mercenary

this is a 330hp, didn t notice the retribution ?

330hp has nothing to do with [retribution]
The reason for the 330hp (rit/Mo, originally described by ReZDoGG 330HP Rit/Mo) is the use of [Protective Spirit] together with [Vengeful Was Khanhei]:

Quote:

Using Protective Spirit with 330hp will lower damage to 33, which VwK will negate by stealing 37 health from enemies to keep your health up, and keep you alive.

Retribution is more important in conjunction with the 600hp builds

ReZDoGG · Sep 05, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

I've messed around with many Spirit Bonding builds, for Mesmer, Necro, and Ele, but none where too effective to farm with due to limitation of good farming Elites. SS is ok, but not that great to use in HM because enemies flee, and won't affect casters. Visions of Regret for mesmer is a great skill, but also has same effects of SS, except it only triggers when enemies use a skill. I've made a pretty good VoR Mesmer Spirit Bonding build that can be pretty fast taking down melee enemies that spam attack skills, but it is quite limited to the places or enemies it can farm. I never bothered to post any of these other Spirit Bonding builds because they just weren't as useful as the usual monk and rit builds. SoJ and Vwk are the best to work with when using Spirit Bonding.

If you wanted the build be a bit more effective, use as high as health as you can... or use 400+hp like I did with necro and mesmer. Higher the health, the more damage from Retribution.
With the necro build I put together, I used major degen with only retribution for damage, and it seemed to work pretty good.

This is one of the Spirit Bonding necro builds I was messing around with when the Elite skill changes update arrived. I used 460hp with 15AL (of course). THe only place I tested it was outside Marketplace, farming Jade Brotherhood Knights. It was able to kill the first 2 groups fairly quick, ending a quick 1 minute run. I am sure this build can be used in alot of places, even with casters... but groups with casters you might want to gather up in a tight ball so they go down fairly quick.

I also haven't fully tested it out...

[build prof=nec/mo blo=10+3+1 pro=10 smi=10 soul=5+1 box][Life Transfer][Radiation Field][Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Retribution][Essence Bond][Balthazar's Spirit][/build]

The build is actually fairly good... Has good regen for extra help with degen on yourself, and has really good energy management since of course when u kill enemies you gain energy. It will do 15 dmg from retribution, which can add up fairly quick along with 8-12 degen on enemies. Good thing bout the degen is, if the enemies flee, their life still goes down... even though u can always just wand or staff them to come back.

btw, Life Transfer hexes target foe and nearby foes... the description on the skill pic isn't updated. Try that build out there, see how you like it. Of course Radiation will be best to have a higher Asuran rank... think I have Rank 5 on my Necro.

yannato · Sep 06, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

ok thanks guys, im gona put this on hold and have alook at some different options!