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Azora · Sep 08, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Ive seen many videos and many build from Stygian Ranger/Me solo Farm nm/hM

~But i Have tested some and doesnt work and many of them dont have attributes and stuff so does anyone know a working build

-Solo
-Nm/Hm

??

Ty in advance!

Lord Zion · Sep 08, 2008, 05:42 PM // 17:42

search button ftw:

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ranger+uw+trap

Azora · Sep 08, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Mate i want to solo trap stygian veil!! not uw =)

Fay Vert · Sep 08, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

Why on earth do you want to do that?

Trapping is pretty much useless now since ANet introduced loot scaling, and did it in such a crazy way as to penalise drops by your rate of kill. So the only thing that drops now is loot scale exempt items. Trapping is about the worst form of farming there is. Second only to EoE bombing.

joshuarodger · Sep 08, 2008, 06:31 PM // 18:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Why on earth do you want to do that?

Trapping is pretty much useless now since ANet introduced loot scaling, and did it in such a crazy way as to penalise drops by your rate of kill. So the only thing that drops now is loot scale exempt items. Trapping is about the worst form of farming there is. Second only to EoE bombing.

DoA gems, since they are gold items, are exempt from loot scaling.

gw_poster · Sep 08, 2008, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Why on earth do you want to do that?

Trapping is pretty much useless now since ANet introduced loot scaling, and did it in such a crazy way as to penalise drops by your rate of kill. So the only thing that drops now is loot scale exempt items. Trapping is about the worst form of farming there is. Second only to EoE bombing.

^^ some people still don't get it ^^

Anyway, to the OP: Yeah, trapping is sometimes cool as its a challenge and u feel a bit of accomplishment when u get something decent from it - although yes it does take quite a bit more time! Stygian Veil used to be a cool place to trap, yes you could solo it (in HM, too) - u just had to time ur run right to the whispers quest giver guy. There may be a video or two out there for how to do it, but the technique I'm sure has changed since the nerf to EW, which effectively killed solo trapping of the more elite areas of the game. In its heyday, I was able to trap up to and including the 4th wave of stygian brutes, horrors and golems(?)..and good drops could definitely be had (including stygian gems)! But, I haven't tried trapping anywhere really since the EW nerf. Damn shame, too, cuz echo-trapping UW was really profitable at that time.

MisterB · Sep 08, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

I wrote a guide for solo trapping Hard mode Stygian Veil.
Included is a 2-man hero build capable of completing the first quest.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10256978

[[Energizing Wind] is not required, nor has the update to that skill "killed" trapping elite areas.

gw_poster · Sep 08, 2008, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterB

I wrote a guide for solo trapping Hard mode Stygian Veil.
Included is a 2-man hero build capable of completing the first quest.

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10256978

[[Energizing Wind] is not required, nor has the update to that skill "killed" trapping elite areas.

Great job, MisterB...I didn't realize it was still possible to solo post-EW nerf! Maybe I'll give it a go again. Thanks.

Azora · Sep 08, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30

Yes! liek some already wrote im tryng to do something different not by the money cause ive got 200k stuck on storage " anything to do exept use to cap elites"

and i capped today smoke trap and i started thinking..

ive never tarpes has a ranger.. and all farm i do is with my ranger!
so lets try something new and i searched on youtube and got like 30 videos..

i tryed the echo build but i must be doing somethign wrong " and i need to practice more too" cause they always stay with like 1/4 of life... ty for the answer!

Jade · Sep 08, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

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Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Why on earth do you want to do that?

Trapping is pretty much useless now since ANet introduced loot scaling, and did it in such a crazy way as to penalise drops by your rate of kill. So the only thing that drops now is loot scale exempt items. Trapping is about the worst form of farming there is. Second only to EoE bombing.

Baby Jesus cries every time someone says this now. It was proven almost a year ago that this statement is complete rubbish. Check out this post here.

FoxBat · Sep 08, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by Jade

Baby Jesus cries every time someone says this now. It was proven almost a year ago that this statement is complete rubbish. Check out this post here.

Killing 4-5 at a time isn't going to show anything. Get groups of 20+ with something that actually kills simultaneously, which SoJ often doesn't.

Though again, all people wanted from Veil or Foundry was gems anyway, and those aren't affected.

MisterB · Sep 08, 2008, 11:03 PM // 23:03

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Originally Posted by Azora

i tryed the echo build but i must be doing somethign wrong " and i need to practice more too" cause they always stay with like 1/4 of life... ty for the answer!

Practice is key for that solo build; there's very little margin for error. All of your traps must hit, and you need to make sure and lay the same number as you see in the video. I think a +30 energy staff would be helpful for laying the very last traps; I'll try and test that, and possibly post results.

edit: Tested. Switching to a +30 energy staff for the last 2 traps saves ~5 seconds waiting for regen. Recommended.

I redid that run three times before posting that video.

Fay Vert · Sep 08, 2008, 11:41 PM // 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade

Baby Jesus cries every time someone says this now. It was proven almost a year ago that this statement is complete rubbish. Check out this post here.

Just how on earth does that prove a thing about rate of kill?

Try trapping, try EoE bombing, hell, just try playing the game with your eyes open! Only a blind idiot would deny rate of kill affecting loot, especially in a trapping thread!!!!

germanturkey · Sep 09, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

ya, i farm Vaettir for glacial stones, and i definitely get more drops if i don't kill them all at the same time with crystal wave or tenai's crystals and like sliver do the work for me. if i get them all at once i'll get 3 or 4 items, otherwise i get many more if they go one at a time.

and yeah, i remember trapper builds. those were good times back in the day. you had to be leet to get into a 3 man tome trapping team.. haha