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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #1
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Default Vengeful Was Khanhei not working in Destroyer Core farm

Last year I used to farm the first wave in Glint's Challenge for Destroyer Cores using a standard W/Rt build. Worked great. I've since come back to farm it this week using an improved Vengeful Was Khanhei based build (VwK, Sig of Stamina, Vengeful Weapon, Dolyak Sig) with a Ranger hero equiped with Quickening Zepher and Serpents Quickness. Much smoother, but.....

I finally died after 10 min (didn't have to but I was bored) after taking 1600+ Splinter Shots and 1100+ Spirit Rifts. Life steal numbers were active (-29's and +29's), but life steal doesn't seem to be working at all. My score was 2 meaning I didn't kill any destroyers at all. Original build doesn't work either.

My question is:

Did Anet give the first wave healers or did something else change (nerf?) that I don't know about?

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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27   #2
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Their heal works now.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:28 AM // 01:28   #3
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So they have a regen?
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:33 AM // 01:33   #4
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their skill gives them +30hp each second so its nerfed. Only build that works right now is the E/Me Terra Sliver armor
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47   #5
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their skill gives them +30hp each second so its nerfed.

ACTUALLY, it was always intended to give them +30hp, it just never did. That's not a nerf.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55   #6
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PRECISELY JIGGLES!!!!!


i put this as my biggest heartbreaker fix ive ever experienced in the game. god i loved that run before the frumpy 1:15 wait.


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Old Oct 30, 2008, 02:06 AM // 02:06   #7
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I agree. This was my fav run after Sorrows Furnace. Thanks for the replies. At least it was a fix, not an Environmental Effect like in Nightfall. Those were/are cheap.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 06:10 AM // 06:10   #8
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it got nerfed, u cant even od it ne more. the destroyers heal up
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19   #9
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their skill gives them +30hp each second so its nerfed. Only build that works right now is the E/Me Terra Sliver armor
Oh please do share :O I used to do the W/Rt 1st wave too, but I still havent got enough cores for 1 pair of gloves Need new way to farm!
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51   #10
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their skill gives them +30hp each second so its nerfed. Only build that works right now is the E/Me Terra Sliver armor
Nerf is not the same as a bug fix, which is what this was. Their Heal was broke, now it works. just like CoF, Reversal of Damage got fixed to do damage to the monk that cast the damage bonds... so technically it never got nerfed.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58   #11
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it got nerfed, u cant even od it ne more. the destroyers heal up
It got fixed, not nerfed. Honestly.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 12:53 PM // 12:53   #12
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Oh please do share :O I used to do the W/Rt 1st wave too, but I still havent got enough cores for 1 pair of gloves Need new way to farm!
Since I don't think the skill icons are up yet, i'll just point you there.

The E/Me and the E/Mo

I'm a big fan of the E/Mo myself. Less casting, but i'm lazy. I even swapped Healing breeze for mending, and with the blessed insignias on my armor, I never have a problem (if others don't like it...w/e. One less spell I have to cast, and i'm lazy).

Either way you go, you can't kill the whole first wave, but you can kill one side and about half the second in 6 minutes or less.
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Old Oct 30, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19   #13
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i use the E/Mo variant and i can clear the entire first wave on normal or hard mode. very easy stuff. just be johnny on the spot with the enchants and yer fine.



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Old Nov 01, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13   #14
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If you try VwK in HM, the enemies should attack significantly faster (faster then once a second), meaning that a perma Vwk should be able to kill em, amirite?
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 02:42 PM // 14:42   #15
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if you are thinkin perma as in perma sin? then you are lookin at 2 elites and i dont think thats gonna work. wouldnt it be nice though to pack several elites ..... ahhhhhhh dare to dream.




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if you are thinkin perma as in perma sin? then you are lookin at 2 elites and i dont think thats gonna work. wouldnt it be nice though to pack several elites ..... ahhhhhhh dare to dream.




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i think he's saying perma as in keeping VwK up all the time
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Old Nov 01, 2008, 03:46 PM // 15:46   #17
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lol i figured as much. i read the post again and thought the same thing. however on hard mode the damage dealt to you outweighs the healing gained from VwK i believe. even with pyre throwing up spirits at the dragon to assist in recharge. UNLESS this has changed i dont know how it would work. i used to toil for hours tryin to get a solo build for hard mode and couldnt swing it. until i found the E/Mo build, which is just righteous for HM.




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Old Nov 02, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17   #18
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Maybe if you went 330 Rit?
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