Curse

Day Trooper · Dec 04, 2008, 06:44 PM // 18:44

Just wanted to share with everyone a new way to complete the Forgotten Vale area for UW Speed Clears. First off MANY THANKS to Glory Blade (aka Laser Fire Shot) for helping me come up with this new strategy!!

The Builds:

[build=A_Me Vale;OwVTE4B+ViHRnpzzGcJABcFwEAA]
[build=E_Mo Pyro Tank Vale;OgNDoMz/Qfe1C0C3MlV8C0l0DA]

As you can see, the Sin build is very similar to a typical chamber build.

For the Ele build, Energy Storage is key, so use a headpiece with +1 to Energy Storage and a rune of Superior Energy Storage. Also use a rune of Superior Fire Magic. In addition, use Survivor Insignias and runes of Superior Vigor/Vitae to offset the health loss from the Superior Energy/Fire runes. Lastly, use a caster weapon, and a fire offhand with preferably a 'forget me not' inscription and a +45hp while enchanted mod.

The Strategy:

With the A/N & N/Rt Vale teams - both the Assassin and Necro clear the reaper monument. However, with a bad pull the Graspings can rush the Necro and quickly kill him.

With our new approach, the A/Me can clear the reaper solo - very similar to how chamber sins can solo-clear the first part of the chamber 'on the stairs'. Basically, just ball everything up and use your hex spells to kill them (of course don't stand to close to the Coldfires - or they will get you with Frozen Burst).

Once the reaper is popped, either the A/Me and E/Mo may do the Wrathful Spirits quest together (for non-speedy runs) OR the ele can solo the quest! (if you really want a fast time; the Assassin would go back and do the 'Escort of Souls' quest with the Chamber Sin while the Ele is completing Wrathful Spirits.)

Q: How does the ele solo the quest? Especially without Stoneflesh Aura?
A: Ether Renewal

Using Illusionary Weaponry, the Wrathful Spirits inflict 51 armor-ignoring damage each time they swipe their weapon.

However, with Ether Renewal at high energy storage, you can easily outheal the damage they inflict provided you have enough enchantments on you - and spam spells!! (for those not familar with Ether Renewal, you gain health AND energy for each enchantment on you whenever you cast a spell.)

With this build, taking on each group of 3 spirits at a time is no problem. In fact, taking on 6 at once is also doable, but you need to make sure you either (a) constantly spam your skills (burning speed is ideal, since it casts quickly and has NO recharge time) or (b) use other consumables which further increase your health (e.g. Birthday Cupcakes, Candy Apples or Pumpkin Cookies) while still spamming spells.

In addition, I included Ebon Escape in the build to be used at the very beginning of the Wrathful Spirits quest. Before taking the quest, the ele should stand near where the group of 3 spirits spawn 'on the hill'.

When the Assassin takes the quest, an allied spirit will spawn along with the 3 enemy spirits - and 9/10 times the allied spirit is close enough so that you may tele to them on the hill. Once there - immediately spam spells (you should already have enchantments on you prior to warping up there). Note: the enemy spirits will scatter a bit; just wait for them to come back to you and continue spamming.

While the ele is killing the 3 spirits on the hill, the Assassin should run to the nearest 3 enemy spirits below and hex them. Once the Ele has finished killing the 3 spirits on the hill, he may warp down to the Assassin and then continue clearing the enemy spirits.

At this point, both the Sin and Ele may continue killing spirits, or the Sin can run back and do Escort of Souls with someone (most likely the Chamber Sin) while the Ele completes Wrathful Spirits.

That's about it! Hope everyone enjoys this guide and running the new builds!

- DT

faraaz · Dec 04, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Seems interesting, but rather over-elaborate, to be honest. At this point, the UW SC has been optimised to the point that certain splits can run it in 11 mins (as has been shown various times in screenshots posted here on Guru), which is pretty damn fast. Based on my initial examination of your build, this isnt going to be significantly faster than what is currently done where the A/N solo's a couple groups of spirits while the Necro can hold his own against one group with Chilblains + SS chaining.

And if you really want a versatile, fail proof solo option for clearing vale, there's always this:
[build;OgdUkYm4lPT8I6MID8Q5ifVuCuMA]

The above negates the need for a necro at all (indeed, I've done 7 man clears numerous times), as Escort can be done with the chamber as babysitter for the spirits, if the vale terra doesnt know how to do the blocking trick for spirits.

But yea, props for thinking out of the box, I suppose.

Day Trooper · Dec 04, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by faraaz

And if you really want a versatile, fail proof solo option for clearing vale, there's always this:
[build;OgdUkYm4lPT8I6MID8Q5ifVuCuMA]

Fyi - the Solo Vale build was my idea (I'd post the link here, but it looks like threads are purged over time? It was in this section of the forums a few months ago).

Anyways - Laser and I wanted to post this as we received lots of requests for a thread like this. Believe us, when run effectively this approach rocks (plus it's fun to be able to spam spells like crazy with the E/Mo build).

We realize there's other ways to do this, we just think ours is the best

.

Quote:

Originally Posted by faraaz

But yea, props for thinking out of the box, I suppose.

Thanks, I suppose

Mr.Kotte · Dec 04, 2008, 07:30 PM // 19:30

Yeah was just about to say that Day Trooper thought up the other build too lawl.

ggs..

therangereminem · Dec 04, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

i have done runs with day and chamber and vale team can have vlae+escort+unwated done at age of 9 min all the time , its way faster then the other way by far with 11 min runsyour always waiting on esacpe to be done its the quest always holding you up

with this build we belive you can get 10 min and under only reason stopping us there is getting the talent togerther to do so , and get them all on at once and what not

day you gave in and gave it to the world lol gogo new record ..............................

so sad

well only good news is you didnt give the tactics of how to get to vale and how a/meser tanks and where the pulls are for the fastest way the guide is breif

Siirius Black · Dec 04, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by faraaz

.... if the vale terra doesnt know how to do the blocking trick for spirits.

I think I missed that. Can you explain how the trick works for blocking the spirits?

Thanks

Day Trooper · Dec 04, 2008, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by therangereminem

i have done runs with day and chamber and vale team can have vlae+escort+unwated done at age of 9 min all the time , its way faster then the other way by far with 11 min runsyour always waiting on esacpe to be done its the quest always holding you up

with this build we belive you can get 10 min and under only reason stopping us there is getting the talent togerther to do so , and get them all on at once and what not

day you gave in and gave it to the world lol gogo new record ..............................

so sad

well only good news is you didnt give the tactics of how to get to vale and how a/meser tanks and where the pulls are for the fastest way the guide is breif

Yeah sorry man - we were getting asked by lots of peeps for the builds so we caved in

. Like you said we can never seem to get enough peeps on to go for record-attempts so it was time to release this.

Although yes - out of respect to you we didn't post your chamber build since that's your idea

therangereminem · Dec 04, 2008, 11:47 PM // 23:47

i was told today by a pug group the build is noob and wouldnt work lol and getting under 18 min is luck and dont happen much lol

faraaz · Dec 05, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Well, I didnt know it was your build...I just saw a dude using it a while ago and asked him for it. Was someone from GoE if I remember correctly, although I don't remember their name.

As for 10 min run, you would need a perfect spawn at mountains...everything else is pretty much static. Fastest I've cleared vale with Mo/E + A/D vale team was 9 mins, with ally team from [Luck] (I was the A/D

), idk if you guys use that split a lot.

As for this clear, the only reason I dont like it on first impressions is that the E/Mo clearer is pretty useless outside of Vale, much like the N/Rt nukebot. If we can work out a split where Unwanted, Wrathful and Escort can all be done at once, a good chunk of time would be knocked off, and the A/D + Monk split already does this to a good extent, although I'm sure it can be improved upon.

Anyway, I'm going to stop rambling now.

I'd like to see this split in action sometime.

IGN: Mara Darkstrike

therangereminem · Dec 09, 2008, 08:07 AM // 08:07

the split guide i am working on , and the comment about good moutain spawn , our moutain always done in under 9 min always, pits has and always been the issue for us its finding a good pits guy that can do our time needed, i know members of luck can do this but i need to get them to do this..

the true guide and video should be up soon for pople i see some pugs running this and there fail with it so bad , from the start we do thigns alot diffrent

Dae GW · Dec 10, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

A question, how to deal with the dying nightmare that pops in vale? You will get rended and GG ur death.

SouPNaZi[GLP] · Dec 11, 2008, 12:22 AM // 00:22

lol i very highly doubt that any member of Luck myself included would help you Em. Btw this split we have been doing since the first sf nerf! i like the fact i can to pits in 9mins and you cant! makes me tingle inside!

Day Trooper · Dec 11, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouPNaZi[GLP]

Btw this split we have been doing since the first sf nerf!

What split have you been doing since the first SF nerf? (I hope you don't mean the A/Me & E/Mo Vale builds - since Laser and I came up with them

)

Day Trooper · Dec 11, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dae GW

A question, how to deal with the dying nightmare that pops in vale? You will get rended and GG ur death.

Simple. Prior to beginning quest - you need to make sure you run around Vale and pop them. Whenever one does pop - just cast a couple Flame Bursts and it's dead...

therangereminem · Dec 11, 2008, 01:21 AM // 01:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouPNaZi[GLP]

lol i very highly doubt that any member of Luck myself included would help you Em. Btw this split we have been doing since the first sf nerf! i like the fact i can to pits in 9mins and you cant! makes me tingle inside!

never said i couldnt do pits in 9 min i can run any area faster then any person hands down , so dont run yoru mouth , wheni asked members of luck to group together it was bering nice in no way was i try ing to get blue banners little followers to start on me , an dno you have not been doign the split the way we do i know that for a fact , the a/d monk junk is slower show me a screen of you doing the following quests before 9 min

unwated
vale
escort
wastes
moutain
4h

i dont think youcan for this one uissue

vale and escort and unwanted

your a/d monk split is slow youcan have wraftful done at 9 to 10 min but you cant have wescort yet,

you wanna open your mouth run it on troppers thread, alli did was ask member sof luck to bury the shit have a couple of your goodplayers run with my team , most poplein my team have kids lifes and so on so getting us all on at once is hard to do i was just putting somethign out there, so 8 to 9 min was gotten and the whole drama would end thast it end of story

Mara Darkstrike was willing to come but after talking to the person they didnt evenm seem to know how to do the areas as fast as you need, and there a member of luck btw

SouPNaZi[GLP] · Dec 11, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

first off troop i said split but not with ele. its basically the same split we have been useing and fyi Em our split gets vale reaper wraithful and escort done at 9.