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Old Feb 21, 2009, 03:39 AM // 03:39   #1
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Default Normal Mode UW Farm, A/E, got some questions

I know that A/E isn't that great of a solo build anymore, but it does work. This is what I have right now:

12+3+1 Shadow Arts
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-I cast 1-3, agro the three grasping groups, recast 1-3, then cast 4-8 and recast 7 as soon as it ends, then I just cycle between 1-3 and 5-8, using 4 when needed.
-I head towards plains, killing the two grasping groups before the Obsidians
-No matter how careful I am, I always get killed by the traps here. I've tried everything from carefully agroing the traps and running back to straight out running through with Burning Speed, but nothing works.



This build doesn't seem to be able to kill Aatxes, and I've heard alot of people saying they can with A/E. Can anyone tell me the best build for this? And some tips to get past the traps?

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Old Feb 21, 2009, 04:21 AM // 04:21   #2
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You skip the Aatxes, just kill the Grasping Darkness' and run to the Chaos Plains. To run over the traps, either just run over them before they "set" (1-2 seconds) or activate burning speed and walk over them. Try to walk on the farthest out spot possible. Don't kill the graspings before the Obsidian Behmoths, they don't drop anything worthwhile, and it's a waste of time.

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Old Feb 21, 2009, 04:34 AM // 04:34   #3
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First off, don't ask for the "best build". If you check the posting guidelines, that's reason enough to get a threadlock. However, you asked for other information, and so that you can get that information, I'm not going to /close this thread.

Behemoths are stationary. They can only lay traps at their exact location. Yes, the traps do have wider radii, but, as Icy said, stay as far away from the Behemoths as possible when running past to avoid triggering the traps. If you watch carefully, you can see where the traps are laid, and should be able to move around them on the fly.

Also, take out [[Lava [email protected]], it's just going to scatter them. Last I heard, the Asuran skill [[Radiation Field] was a good choice for more degen. I could be wrong, tho.
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Old Feb 21, 2009, 04:40 AM // 04:40   #4
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Alright, sorry about the title thing. I can edit it if you like.


And thanks for the tip about skipping the graspings+Radiation Field, looks great to me.


Radiation field... I cannot get that with a tome, correct?

Ugh, I really don't want to go all that way on my sin >.>

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Old Feb 21, 2009, 06:29 AM // 06:29   #5
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Radiation Field is a very good choice for farming but for Mindblades in particular, you can't utilise the second part of the skill (disease), so considering its 15 energy cast, may not be such a good idea to take along.

Putting in Liquid Flame or Glowing Gaze instead of Lava Font may help you - if you struggle still with traps, consider Dash until you master the art of avoiding them.

Hope this helps.
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Old Feb 21, 2009, 07:03 AM // 07:03   #6
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also try swapping to a HP+60 staff while going through the traps, used to help me.
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Old Feb 21, 2009, 09:43 AM // 09:43   #7
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Don't worry about getting Radiation Field for this farm as it's not that good against the Mindblades

Also I don't use Fire Attunement when farming the plains I just auto attack with a set of Zealous Daggers to keep my energy up. (Make sure you have a 20% enchanting mod on the daggers in case you don't switch back to your staff in time for the SF cast)

What sort of times are people taking to do the now?
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Old Feb 22, 2009, 05:16 AM // 05:16   #8
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Don't worry about getting Radiation Field for this farm as it's not that good against the Mindblades

Also I don't use Fire Attunement when farming the plains I just auto attack with a set of Zealous Daggers to keep my energy up. (Make sure you have a 20% enchanting mod on the daggers in case you don't switch back to your staff in time for the SF cast)

What sort of times are people taking to do the now?
:P I already went and got Rad Field out of interest. Ah well.


Alright, so no fire attune?

I have a set of Zealous Daggers, but they're Green and don't have of Enchanting, so scratch that.

Instead of making an entire new topic in the forum, can someone give me a PC on an Enchanting mod and Zealous mod for Dagger?
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Old Feb 22, 2009, 10:14 AM // 10:14   #9
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The mindblades energy gets drained when casting spells on a person with SF on... Just a hint...
[Mark of Rodgort]....
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Old Feb 22, 2009, 04:58 PM // 16:58   #10
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The mindblades energy gets drained when casting spells on a person with SF on... Just a hint...
[Mark of Rodgort]....
[Mark of Rodgort] costs a fairly high amount of energy, and it seems to me that burning speed does basically the same thing.

Besides, how will I consistently do fire damage to them if [Lava Font] scatters them?


EDIT: [Hex Breaker] also sort of screws this up, as they have high domination magic and as such will be able to permenantly maintain it.

Sorry for double post, but I just want to thank you all


I figured out using Dash works very well to get past traps safely, and I just got a couple ectos with the stuff you suggested (Mark of Rodgort, Dash, etc).
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Old Feb 22, 2009, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #11
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EDIT: [Hex Breaker] also sort of screws this up, as they have high domination magic and as such will be able to permenantly maintain it.
How can they cast without any energy?
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 03:18 AM // 03:18   #12
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Learn the wall technique. It helps with scatter as mobs will try to break to their left when scattering. Basically you grab aggro, pull them into a tight knit ball next to an edge they can't go through. Make sure the edge is on their left and your right when facing them. Then take a short step off from the wall and then commence slaughter. There are videos on youtube that show you the proper way of doing this.
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08   #13
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You can also use the low health technique to stop scatter.

When I get to the plains I find a safe spot let SF run out dropping me to 53hp then recast and engage mobs. Don't have any problems with scatter from LF.

Does nyone have a map of which route is best now that you can't pull the riders so far?

Thanks
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Old Feb 23, 2009, 11:55 PM // 23:55   #14
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bring a vamp weapon to keep health below 100 and too also prevent regen to happen

no need for that stupid wall hug BS
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 11:50 AM // 11:50   #15
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mindblades usually never recast there hexbreaker when your running sf, so mark of rodgort should be able to easily kick in.....
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #16
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Alright, so no fire attune?

I have a set of Zealous Daggers, but they're Green and don't have of Enchanting, so scratch that.
A Zealous Scythe works with +20% enchantment great here once you get to the plains for energy, as you have many things balled up. Swinging a Zealous scythe just for energy will get you 3 energy per hit.

Also, if you have it, Pumpkin Pie will make you run and activate your skills faster for 10 minutes and other sugar consumables that give +1 are a great use here.

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Old Feb 24, 2009, 05:09 PM // 17:09   #17
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Last time I tried this I ran out of energy.

How do you keep your energy up, or is this just very slow?
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #18
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It's alot slower than it used to be and the easiest way to keep energy up is to auto attack with a set of zealous +20% enchant daggers, or similar specced scythe.
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Old Feb 24, 2009, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #19
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Last time I tried this I ran out of energy.

How do you keep your energy up, or is this just very slow?
Use:

Staff (when running and not attacking or if low on energy)
10e
+5
+5
+20%

Scythe (while fighting, unless fighting only 1 ennemy. keep switing it)
Zealous
+5e
+20%

Spear (if you want to lowerer your health and still be able to pull stuff)
Vampiric
+5e
+20%

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Old Feb 25, 2009, 02:21 AM // 02:21   #20
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thought the old a/e farm was cheap.. actually anything a/e pre-nerf was way too easy- least now you have to ride the long yellow bus
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