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Betrayer of Wind · Mar 12, 2009, 12:51 AM // 00:51

Tired of Cryway?Tank n' Spank?Perma Sins?
We decided to take our heroes for a DoA HM tour running our best characters.
this is by no means a record time,if it has been done or not,idk but i've yet to see a screenshot of it.

by Mad Guild.

jiggles · Mar 12, 2009, 01:46 AM // 01:46

blacking out the builds because you dont want anyone to see how awesome they are? Really, get over yourselves.

Daisuko · Mar 12, 2009, 01:52 AM // 01:52

This is impressive how? I cleared DoA on my warrior with a friend (ele) and 6 heroes without cons in NM, so with a full conset I don't see it being much harder in HM.

toocooltang · Mar 12, 2009, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Enviormental affects, specfically -2nrg and 50% change to miss attacks.

To answer jiggles question: We blacked out the builds because as a guild we feel they aren't perfected yet. If we were to release the builds, a guide on pulls, varations of the builds, equiment needed, runes etc would all be included. I am pretty sure I speak for Mad when I say we don't want to release something that is below the current standards of DOA runs for heroway. There is no intention of hiding knowledge here, we just don't want to pollute guru with more substandard builds.

trdsn89 · Mar 12, 2009, 01:57 AM // 01:57

I like doing DoA HM in 50 mins not 3 hours

Ryane · Mar 12, 2009, 02:01 AM // 02:01

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Originally Posted by jiggles

blacking out the builds because you dont want anyone to see how awesome they are? Really, get over yourselves.

Does it make you angry that we blacked out the builds so you can't see them or so you can't use them??

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Originally Posted by trdsn89

I like doing DoA HM in 50 mins not 3 hours

I like doing doa with more skill than 123 pull that stuff way over there 123
wait echo 123 123... ect.
I want to at least have some braincells left when I finish doa not to be totally numb from boredom...

Shayne Hawke · Mar 12, 2009, 02:01 AM // 02:01

You're not the first, and you're not the best. Also, I don't know what "our heroes" means, since it's only one person there that brought any.

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Originally Posted by Ryane

Does it make you angry that we blacked out the builds so you can't see them or so you can't use them??

Yeah, hold onto your precious and secret 3-hour clear build, with cons. You think we care to see it?

PvX says hello.

Puebert · Mar 12, 2009, 02:01 AM // 02:01

+1

This would have been impressive around the release of DoA.

Not after the game has died, besides many builds do it much faster.

Betrayer of Wind · Mar 12, 2009, 02:02 AM // 02:02

This isnt about time,its about using balanced on HM with heroes
Time was bad,yes,heroes dont know how to hold positions very well,but running a balanced team u cant expect a speed clear,do you?
Even pugs can run DoA hm with cryway uber gimmick
if u dont think this is impressive,try it sometime.

TheOrangeFalcon · Mar 12, 2009, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Unless this took you like 30mins, I see no point as to why you bothered to post this as you blacked out your build. And I'm sorry to tell ya, its been done before so you're not quite as special as you think.

Additionally I think this should be moved as this doesn't look like a farming thread or anything.

Puebert · Mar 12, 2009, 02:08 AM // 02:08

I have done it, DoA isn't hard anymore.

No one wants to try and guess what your SUPERSECRETLAWLAMAZING builds are, as they probably very similar to every other build that is able to do DoA.

Also, no one really cares that you managed to do it at a completely average speed.

So, you didn't post your build, and your time is nothing special.

There was really no reason to start this thread other than to give me a +2.

Gasp.

toocooltang · Mar 12, 2009, 02:14 AM // 02:14

I will BUMP this thread after the SF nerf to remind everyone that we still do DOA HM.

P.S. we dont run obbly flesh

czfeng · Mar 12, 2009, 02:16 AM // 02:16

why do u blackout ur builds but leavin ur name and posting it under farming section? do u even kno wat this section means? 2h45min r u serious? is it worth posting even if u did show the builds? pugs with random builds can do better

Ryane · Mar 12, 2009, 02:25 AM // 02:25

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Originally Posted by czfeng

why do u blackout ur builds but leavin ur name and posting it under farming section? do u even kno wat this section means? 2h45min r u serious? is it worth posting even if u did show the builds? pugs with random builds can do better

R O F L I would love to see a group of Pugs even do 1 section of DoA hm without cry/perma sins ect ect...
Oh and if you've done it before better than us where's the screenshots?

We're not saying were the best. But what we are saying is that once your precious shadow form gets nerfed we won't be QQ'ing like you did when ursan got pwned...

sthpaw · Mar 12, 2009, 02:26 AM // 02:26

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Originally Posted by toocooltang

I will BUMP this thread after the SF nerf to remind everyone that we still do DOA HM.

ok then....there still is obsidian flesh tanks and people still use that sometimes.

toocooltang · Mar 12, 2009, 02:29 AM // 02:29

Czfeng-

Please post a build of your guild running a balanced build in DOA HM completing it in less than our time. I also know your guild holds alot of the records for speedclears, but isn't that all based on two skills? SF and CRY? Where is the skill in that?

czfeng · Mar 12, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35

u must be kiddin urself if u think we cant beat u with ur 'build'. believe me, even if we ran ur 'build' we would still beat u at ur own game, jus a matter of interest we have.

SirSporks · Mar 12, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35

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Originally Posted by czfeng

pugs with random builds can do better

thats true.. they can be in and out of there having used 1 conset and about 2 mins worth of time... pugs fail, srsly

we have fun.. the speed clear's and stuff like that are for moneys sake. when i want to have fun i like the challenge of a balanced build. the game is boring when you use the same builds over and over and over again >.<

pvx did more to ruin this game than it did help it xD encourages people not to think about the game. "I can't do this" *checks wiki* *does it* that is fail. if i wanted a game that easy i would play runescape.

belladonna shylock · Mar 12, 2009, 02:48 AM // 02:48

I don't see why everyone is so down on this post. I'm not really sure if I could do that.

THAT'S AWESOME!! WAY TO GO [MAD]!

I am curious to see the build you used though...why hide it if you're going to be proud of what you did? That's like a person afraid of their sexuality. Come on with your homosexual self! I want to see the guide! At least a short one....to help everyone else get started.

You can send it in a private message to me if you're really not wanting to post it on here...unless you really are trying to hide it, then I'll understand

TheOrangeFalcon · Mar 12, 2009, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by belladonna shylock

I don't see why everyone is so down on this post.

Biggest issue, in my opinion, is that they bothered to black out the builds. Seeing "new" builds is always interesting, even if its not the most effective, simply because it allows for feedback on how to improve or see an area in a different way.

Also, the "we're better than you because everyone else uses Cry and SF" is rather annoying. Generalizations of the public kind of makes you look bad. I have never ran Cry, have ran ursan, and have run "balanced". I mean seriously, "balanced" was around before Ursan, which was before Cry, and DoA has been done before the release of EotN we can assume hopefully. With that assumption we can continue to say that once SF gets nerfed, hopefully, that people will just go back to running the "balanced" builds OR just find another gimmick. Theres always going to be gimmicks and there will always be "balanced".

The way this thread has been going it looks as though it will just turn into a Gimmick Vs. "balanced" thread, and have absolutely nothing to do with [mad] clearing it and their actual builds.