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Nechtan Thaumaturge · Mar 19, 2009, 09:19 PM // 21:19

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Originally Posted by infamous16

I believe its fake...some of the drops are in the EXACT same spots, and you could easily pick em up and drop somewhere else.

photoshop isnt that hard.

Skepticism can be a virtue, but if you want to draw wisdom from others' experiences you have to be prepared to believe some of the things you hear.

If you look further down in that thread, you'll see some of my screenshots also, so you can imagine where I stand on the issue. We could argue back and forth over whether they are authentic or not, but ultimately I can't prove to you that it wasn't done in Photoshop. The only way you'll know the effect is real is to try it yourself. So that's what I'm going to recommend. Contact me if you need assistance.

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Originally Posted by Edge Igneas

I think the drop quality decreases indeed somehow. [...] Maybe its luck, but to me it sure looks this way.

Actually, I've had the exact opposite experience. As I've gotten better at Raptor farming and lowered my run times, I have found that my drops have improved, in a gold per hour sense. You're always going to have runs where you get nothing but Saurian Bones; the key is pushing past those and trusting in the idea that you will make it up over time.

I can generally pull in the same quantity of loot you mentioned (40k, 2 Black dyes, 4 White dyes, over 100 gold items) right now in five hours of farming certainly, maybe less. I don't know what sort of time frame you meant when you said "a day", but the two spans sound roughly comparable. I've max'ed out my Asuran rank on three characters doing essentially nothing but Raptor farming, so I would venture to say that the effect should have set in by now.

Also, to the general readership now, I have to wonder exactly what the proposed answer to the implied question is. In other words, let's say over-farming reduces your drops. Then what? Do you stop farming altogether? Do you farm frequently but for shorter periods? Do you farm intensively, then take a month off? I don't know if anyone is suggesting rotating farms here, but do you try that? In order to answer these questions, you've got to analyze things mathematically. In other words, someone has to pony up some data.

zling · Mar 19, 2009, 09:29 PM // 21:29

well, if it does turn out to be correct than it will open up various other farming spots that nobody visits nowadays due to Raptors/Vaettirs. heck, even good old Trolls in the Southern Shiverpeaks(prophecies mind you) will see a comeback

Fay Vert · Mar 19, 2009, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by Edge Igneas

Maybe its luck, but to me it sure looks this way.

I don't think it's luck, I know far too many people who report the same pattern, and ideed, I don'r farm raptors anymore, so little drops it's not worth it outside event weekends.

_Nihilist_ · Mar 20, 2009, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I Raptor-farm on my Warrior in HM all the time. I've gone from r4 to almost finished @ r10 Asuran by Raptors alone. A run takes me under 1min, when I use the /age command it always shows "0 minutes in current map".

Some runs I get 4 or 5 gold item drops, some runs I get nothing. Some runs I get no dye, one run I got a dual black dye drop (have the SS to prove it, will have to post that one when I'm @ home, I'm @ work atm). I agree with Nechtan on this point. No matter what you are farming, or what you are farming FOR, you will always have runs that yield no/few drops. You just have to keep farming.

There is such a thing as farming code and loot scaling, but when you farm, it's the items that are exempt from loot scaling that you are aiming to get in the first place: gold items, event drops, dyes, tomes, keys/picks, and rare crafting mats. No matter how much the farming code/loot scaling kicks your ass on merchant-fodder white/blue/purple drops, if you are farming in an efficient manner the items that are exempt from the code/scaling rules will net you a hefty profit. Just because one, two, or three runs don't yield a single drop doesn't mean you should stop farming, unless it's taking too long to farm the area - then it IS a waste of your time. But if you are farming at an accelerated rate (Warrior Raptor Farm, Keg Bombing, etc) you burn thru the "no drops" runs so fast that it's really of no consequence, tbh.

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I farm the Trolls, still zling. Whenever an Alliance mate wants to make a Proph toon, I get a little bit of cash for powerleveling them on Trolls/Tundra Giants.

Spiritz · Mar 20, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32

ok i spent the weekend keg farming asterious - maybe 50 runs in total - just running down to umbrals exit then rezoning just for boss - avg 30 kills and 2 -3 min run.
I did get 4 green scythes in a row and then ..... all other drops sort of went pear shaped - some event drops , berserker horns and the odd white.No elite tomes/golds/scrolls or purples.It sort of dried up on me totally lol - hell i even went in umbrals area and had a look at what i could keg for a few runs then went bk - and ta da .. crap drops still lol.

Coney · Mar 20, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

... it's the items that are exempt from loot scaling that you are aiming to get in the first place: ... keys/picks ...

Neither wiki site confirms this - can you verify it is true (e.g. that lockpicks are not loot scaled)?

WuTang[MAFB] · Mar 20, 2009, 06:20 PM // 18:20

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Originally Posted by Edge Igneas

I think the drop quality decreases indeed somehow. When I was A/E Raptor farming a couple months back, I remember the first times I was farming I made about 40k a day, not bad, I got 2 black dyes, 4 whites, over 100 gold items (7unids=5k) scrolls and tomes.

Right now im lucky if I get a single gold drop, I still get plently of tomes and other items on the list of scaled looting, but the thing that bothers me the most is a lack of gold items, I usually get about 1 gold every 3-5 runs, when before I usually always got 1 or 2 on a single run.

Maybe its luck, but to me it sure looks this way.

if you want golds, do VSF runs. I perma sin those and i have so many freakin golds and perfect inscriptions/mods i dont know what to do with them. The reason why is its a Chest farm not a Drop farm so these drop problems you are talking about dont apply.

Fay Vert · Mar 20, 2009, 07:22 PM // 19:22

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Just because one, two, or three runs don't yield a single drop doesn't mean you should stop farming, unless it's taking too long to farm the area - then it IS a waste of your time. But if you are farming at an accelerated rate (Warrior Raptor Farm, Keg Bombing, etc) you burn thru the "no drops" runs so fast that it's really of no consequence, tbh.

I am pleased you are not yet experiencing the problem, but please understand, little dry spells are not what this is about. I haven't had 4 golds from a raptor run in over 6 months, in fact the norm for me is 1 gold every 3 or 4 raptor runs (hard mode + boss - 34 kills).

This isn't a dry spell, its a near complete drop shut down. Of course, I don't farm the raps any more, no point now. I go back and try for half an hour every month or two, but no change, one gold drop every few runs. Getting two golds in a run is a pretty rare event for me. They're still good for event items, and black dye seems to be a reasonably likely drop from them.

_Nihilist_ · Mar 21, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24

I farm the Raptors every night at least enough to fill my inventory all the way; I have 42/45 open slots (slot for picks, my Mini Bone Dragon, and a Skull Juju my wife gave to me on NF release - the BD and Juju never leave my inventory... ever...). Some runs, I get nothing of consequence, other runs, I get 4-5 golds, maybe even a dye or two, and an Assassin Tome. The runs take me less than a minute to complete, including zone in, run, kill, /resign. Unless there is something I'm missing, you should have no problems getting a decent return from Raptor farming.