Curse

LunarAssassin · Apr 11, 2009, 12:47 PM // 12:47

i have a 33hp rit with all the reqs
what can i do against Diamond Djinn at The Hidden City of Ahdashim? they use healing skill....
should i make a 55hp monk insted?
is 55hp monk is faster and easier?

Dre · Apr 11, 2009, 02:28 PM // 14:28

130hp derv can kill them
never tried farming them with rit/monk

SimplyAmazing · Apr 11, 2009, 04:05 PM // 16:05

Try pain inverter,

or, what you should do, is make your 330hp a 600 hp (remove a rune + add sup vigor rune)

add 1-2 smiter heroes, and you can pretty much farm the entire game with a few exceptions, you can vanquish almost the entire game as well like this, and because it's only 2-3 lots of drops, plus you can run dungeons, kathandrax, soo, cof, oolas, ooze pit, with minor adjustments, the build is on this forum, and on pvxwiki, take a look it might interest you, and it's proven that 600 rit, is much much faster than 600 monk thanks to VwK.

Nightow · Apr 11, 2009, 05:32 PM // 17:32

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

Try pain inverter,

or, what you should do, is make your 330hp a 600 hp (remove a rune + add sup vigor rune)

add 1-2 smiter heroes, and you can pretty much farm the entire game with a few exceptions, you can vanquish almost the entire game as well like this, and because it's only 2-3 lots of drops, plus you can run dungeons, kathandrax, soo, cof, oolas, ooze pit, with minor adjustments, the build is on this forum, and on pvxwiki, take a look it might interest you, and it's proven that 600 rit, is much much faster than 600 monk thanks to VwK.

Seconding this and just want to add that you might want to keep an ele hero flagged by the entrance if you want to vanquish the entire zone. I say this due to the act that it can be very frustrating to kill off the frog healers in that zone.

Oh, and salvage any essence/geodes with a expert kit for a chance of a rare gem.

SimplyAmazing · Apr 11, 2009, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

Try pain inverter,

or, what you should do, is make your 330hp a 600 hp (remove a rune + add sup vigor rune)

add 1-2 smiter heroes, and you can pretty much farm the entire game with a few exceptions, you can vanquish almost the entire game as well like this, and because it's only 2-3 lots of drops, plus you can run dungeons, kathandrax, soo, cof, oolas, ooze pit, with minor adjustments, the build is on this forum, and on pvxwiki, take a look it might interest you, and it's proven that 600 rit, is much much faster than 600 monk thanks to VwK.

ok, so i couldnt remember what post the 600 rit was in, i did post it on pvxwiki a long time ago, but it's only the 2-man variant, it's not as great as what i'm currently using so i posted it here under the Dungeon Farming Builds thread.. Check this >> http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...&postcount=237

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Originally Posted by Nightow

Seconding this and just want to add that you might want to keep an ele hero flagged by the entrance if you want to vanquish the entire zone. I say this due to the act that it can be very frustrating to kill off the frog healers in that zone.

Oh, and salvage any essence/geodes with a expert kit for a chance of a rare gem.

instead of ele, i like to keep a VoR mes, or a SS nec backed up somewhere, just in case of pesky bosses or any stubborn healers.

Archress Shayleigh · Apr 11, 2009, 06:51 PM // 18:51

330 Rit is just fine... Just deal with the fast u cannot solo that area.

sosycpsycho · Apr 11, 2009, 06:55 PM // 18:55

no you can solo that area, I used ebon assassin skill to do healing targets like star lights in HM Naphui. I would say if your going to make a change upgrade your 330 to a 600 vwk rit and just take a smite bonder. the speed increase and flexability will make it worthwhile.

SimplyAmazing · Apr 11, 2009, 07:11 PM // 19:11

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Originally Posted by Archress Shayleigh

330 Rit is just fine... Just deal with the fast u cannot solo that area.

330 rit blows, sure you can solo hm, but what can you solo that's worthwhile and will make you profit?, nothing, mediocre enemies, and in small groups, only profit made is junk drops you merch, for solo'ing hm there is much better ways of doing it, aka perma sin or 55 monk, scrap the 330 and just go 600, much much more worthwhile and once you learn what you're doing, run some dungeons, and make lots of profit, if you practice and learn Kathandrax, you can charge 15k a spot x 5 = 75, plus chance of emerald blade, and whatever you get from LoD and Locked chests. And you can breeze threw UW for ectos and quests, and i'm not talking about doing crappy smite runs w/ 330, i mean CLEARING all of UW, doing quests, and if you do it with a friend you can successfully do 4h and get end chest. so i'd say all the profit made from 600 heavily out weighs the few gold drops and lockpicks/tomes you may get from 330'ing.

Spiritz · Apr 11, 2009, 08:45 PM // 20:45

Id look down a few posts and read rezdoggs post on 330 rit or even leave a reply asking for help as hes done a few 330 rit builds and may be very helpfull

ReZDoGG · Apr 11, 2009, 11:30 PM // 23:30

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

330 rit blows, sure you can solo hm, but what can you solo that's worthwhile and will make you profit?, nothing, mediocre enemies, and in small groups, only profit made is junk drops you merch, for solo'ing hm there is much better ways of doing it, aka perma sin or 55 monk, scrap the 330 and just go 600, much much more worthwhile and once you learn what you're doing, run some dungeons, and make lots of profit, if you practice and learn Kathandrax, you can charge 15k a spot x 5 = 75, plus chance of emerald blade, and whatever you get from LoD and Locked chests. And you can breeze threw UW for ectos and quests, and i'm not talking about doing crappy smite runs w/ 330, i mean CLEARING all of UW, doing quests, and if you do it with a friend you can successfully do 4h and get end chest. so i'd say all the profit made from 600 heavily out weighs the few gold drops and lockpicks/tomes you may get from 330'ing.

330hp Rit does not blow for soloing HM, the game is just getting old and nothing is worth anything these days, especially for non-dungeon drops, so almost any solo build won't be the best way to make money. But yeah, It ain't the builds fault that you don't make much profit these days, because there isn't anything that is really worth much at all, and those days of high valued drops are well over. Mods are definately not worth much now compared how much they used to worth, but they can still bring in alittle money if you take the time to sell them, same goes for black/white dyes, lockpicks, tomes, unids, ect. The only items that are worth anything are the rare dungeon drops. But yeah, you can still farm with 330hp and make some steady cash and having alil fun at the same time. Farming dungeons over and over can get pretty boring if you ask me, same goes for running them for 5-15k per person, even though running it for people is definately a great way to make money, it can be quite the pain in azz dealing with people paying up or making sure they don't leave the run. It is good to mix things up, otherwise you will just get bored and eventually stop playing, so solo farming is a good way to do things on your own and not have to deal with other people or depend on them in dungeons. Also, 330hp in UW was just an example of the areas the build was able to farm, even though it is really difficult to learn with the build... it iss more of a challenge than anything when farming UW with 330hp. I would also recommend other ways to farm ectos, such as the past A/E builds, but not sure how that is going anymore.

As for Hidden City, use Pain Inverter to help speed things up if you really want to go solo. If it wasn't for those mesmers, the build would solo pretty far into the Hidden City, but if you pull more than 2 of those mesmers, it can definately cause some problems with energy and damage that doesn't trigger VwK or Spirit Bond. Try to cast Pain Inverter on the Mesmers first thing, then on the Diamonds, and the rest should be a breeze, or even dead by time you kill the Diamonds.

If you still have questings or need help with the build, be sure to post it onto my original build Thread.

330hp Rt/Mo Vengeful Spirit Bonder (Original Guide/Thread)

SimplyAmazing · Apr 12, 2009, 01:12 AM // 01:12

if the build farms stuff that is useless, then the build is useless, sure it works, but if you want money it's not the way to go, that's all, besides it's just a build, a set of skills in a game you didn't make, don't let it hurt your feelings that there's better, faster, easier ways of making money.

ReZDoGG · Apr 12, 2009, 05:43 AM // 05:43

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

if the build farms stuff that is useless, then the build is useless, sure it works, but if you want money it's not the way to go, that's all, besides it's just a build, a set of skills in a game you didn't make, don't let it hurt your feelings that there's better, faster, easier ways of making money.

The game itself is not worthwhile to be honest, its slowly dying. Everything is going down in price, because its just same stuff over and over, nothing new. If you want to you can have fun solo farming and still make some profit... i've made plenty cash just from solo farming, even when there wasn't anything that was worth 2-10k. Not everyone likes to do dungeon runs for people... If someone wants to solo, then its up to them, no need to discourage them. Build isn't useless, just the items are... if build was useless, then that would mean it wouldn't be a good build period, which has nothing to do with what kind of items drop. Your pretty much saying all builds are useless, because all solo builds farm just about the same crap. Solo farming is just fun, and 330hp Rit is definately the most fun, next to A/E Sliver.

Spiritz · Apr 12, 2009, 02:10 PM // 14:10

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

if the build farms stuff that is useless, then the build is useless, sure it works, but if you want money it's not the way to go, that's all, besides it's just a build, a set of skills in a game you didn't make, don't let it hurt your feelings that there's better, faster, easier ways of making money.

Hate to say but doesnt that imply all builds are useless then - any build can farm useless stuff.
A build doesnt have to be just for making serious money - some ppl mess with builds just for fun.If it were then everyone would be using same builds and economy would be non existant ( vs spears for 1k lol and ectos 100g ) - theres always going to be high end farmers and low end farmers.

SimplyAmazing · Apr 13, 2009, 12:06 AM // 00:06

does not imply that all builds are useless, why not read up a couple posts, basically i'm saying that 330 rit, cannot farm anything worth while, only thing it works efficiently with is, against melee mobs, any hard casters and you're screwed, and you can only farm small mobs, and not even very quickly, so like i said before....

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

if you want money it's not the way to go, that's all, besides it's just a build, a set of skills in a game you didn't make, don't let it hurt your feelings that there's better, faster, easier ways of making money.

and also, just to clarify to you people who cannot read

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Originally Posted by SimplyAmazing

for solo'ing hm there is much better ways of doing it, aka perma sin or 55 monk

so obviously i don't believe going solo is worthless, or that all builds are worthless. if you wanna spend your time+money to waste your time making no money, than hey that's your opinion, and this is mine, so like stated; don't let it hurt your feelings.

And, not all solo builds farm the same crap, with a perma form you can solo dungeons hm, you can solo A LOT more of UW/FoW, with ele's you can farm glints, uw, doa, and other high-end areas. Everything has it's uses, and 330 has very little uses.

The OP asked a question, and i tried to help him put his rit to a very good use, because other than being support for high-end farm runs like vsf, 600 is the best way to use your rit, as it's extremely powerful, and has numerous uses, and can farm a hell of a lot more places then a basic 330.

also the game isn't worthless, there is plenty of stuff to do, and plenty of money to be made, and plenty of fun to be had, it's all about trying NEW things. and if you're bored, buy a new game. /finished with this thread.