Curse

Fate Crusher · Dec 27, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

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Originally Posted by ac0okiemonst3r

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Agreed with barbarian, energy tap fails compared to channeling... would you want 12 energy every 20 seconds or mobbing up 10+ creatures and getting free casts of CoP and Ether Nightmare?

I'd like to see a drop rate comparison in relation to the run time and see if this run is still viable.

the build works in NM, right? i was told NM creatures scatter even easier making this build useless

Lithril Ashwalker · Dec 28, 2008, 03:06 AM // 03:06

its made nerfed anyway, A/Me can no longer solo like this any more without consets...if im incorrect please don't hesitate to even call me a noob!!

cause right now id hate to be right about what I've said.

Luminarus · Dec 28, 2008, 12:20 PM // 12:20

I thought it wasnt possible anymore because arcane doesnt recharge fast enough, but I could definately be wrong.

Tom Swift · Dec 28, 2008, 03:07 PM // 15:07

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

I thought it wasnt possible anymore because arcane doesnt recharge fast enough, but I could definately be wrong.

It is possible to maintain without consets at 16 Shadow arts. (15 is barely possible)

On the shadow form icon look at the lower left corner. You will see a small gap between the body and the right arm of the figure on the icon. Cast your dp/ae/sf chain and when the recharge on the original sf hits that gap cast your echoed sf. That will give you just enough time when ae recharges to cast it and sf to maintain. (dont forget to cast dp just before ae recharges.)

The timing is very close, however, and I don't think it allows enough time around the behemoths because of natures renewal. If you are doing the plains it might be worth using an essence of celerity, at least, just to be sure.

feanor air · Dec 31, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Hi guys, Just wanted to say that the HM run is still possible as A/E. I do a small "twist" in the build though. I use Glyph - DP - SF - Burning Speed - Golden lotus strike - Lotus strike - Death blossom - Shadow refuge. How it works: Glyph+DP+SF (doh :P) , then for energy managment and dmg golden+lotus+death blossom+ burning speed and repeat. I use burning speed 3 times before I do shadow refuge. For the run do burning speed + shadow refuge. This isn't as slow as the ordinary dagger perma SF.

In summary:
Skills: Gylph - DP - SF - Burning speed- Golden lotus strike - Lotus strike - Death blossom - Shadow refuge

Equipment: 1) Daggers with +20% ench and +5 energy etc...
2) Sword with +20% ench and +5 energy and a fire focus (use this for the run of when there are no enemies to use dagger skills for energy managment when you want to keep the Perma SF engine going ;D)

BBG345 · Jan 01, 2009, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by feanor air

Hi guys, Just wanted to say that the HM run is still possible as A/E. I do a small "twist" in the build though. I use Glyph - DP - SF - Burning Speed - Golden lotus strike - Lotus strike - Death blossom - Shadow refuge. How it works: Glyph+DP+SF (doh :P) , then for energy managment and dmg golden+lotus+death blossom+ burning speed and repeat. I use burning speed 3 times before I do shadow refuge. For the run do burning speed + shadow refuge. This isn't as slow as the ordinary dagger perma SF.

In summary:
Skills: Gylph - DP - SF - Burning speed- Golden lotus strike - Lotus strike - Death blossom - Shadow refuge

Equipment: 1) Daggers with +20% ench and +5 energy etc...
2) Sword with +20% ench and +5 energy and a fire focus (use this for the run of when there are no enemies to use dagger skills for energy managment when you want to keep the Perma SF engine going ;D)

Any other virants for /E that can be more efficient?

42 (assuming energy runes+5e wep)
-35(DP+GoS+SF)
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7 energy left over with maybe 3 more from regen in due times.
so 10 total

seems energy harsh x.x
Your not gaining energy from Crit being at 0
no zealous
your spending 5+5+5 energy (being 15) and another 5+10 of your enegry
but only gaining 10 energy from lotus...

seems energy harsh imo

Luminarus · Jan 01, 2009, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Golden Lotus and Lotus = Energy tbh. Also, GoS,DP,SF = 30 energy, not 35. My vote would be to run the original burning speed build, but bring a zealous scythe to regain energy. If your hitting 3 things, thats the equivalent of 4.5 extra regen. 3.5 once you take into account the -1 regen. Also bring zealous daggers incase your only fighting one thing.

feanor air · Jan 02, 2009, 12:01 AM // 00:01

I use 7 fire magic and 6 or 7 crit strike. Have no energy problems.^^ Also I did a run at planes today with A/ME which still works, but I got killed when I did ether nightmare on mindblade specter. Hex breaker x11 lol. Does that happen if I had used price of failure instead, because I noticed that the mindblades use Hex breaker once! so if you target the samme specter you shold be okey?

air zephyr · Mar 13, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27

considering it's now march I thought i'd ask for an update on the viability of this build... I'll be honest and say i'm confused by what skills are supposed to be in it now. I tried the one on the main post/page but to no avail so I wanna know if it just takes time or if there's a new one that works...

help appreciated ^_^

batno_mercy · Mar 14, 2009, 12:29 PM // 12:29

How the hell do you pull those specters? No way the riders are moving and the specters are ranged...

riktw · Mar 14, 2009, 02:25 PM // 14:25

just found this, topic starter YOU ARE MY NEW GOD THIS WEEK

got 8 ecto in 1 hours 28 minutes, WOW

SH101 · Mar 15, 2009, 09:40 AM // 09:40

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Originally Posted by riktw

just found this, topic starter YOU ARE MY NEW GOD THIS WEEK

got 8 ecto in 1 hours 28 minutes, WOW

Which build with and chaos planes or labirynth?

Xiaxhou of Trinity · Mar 16, 2009, 07:09 AM // 07:09

is the first pic with all the stuff on the ground all of the loot you gained from that one run?

10 ecto in one run? what's the average you get in this run??

riktw · Mar 16, 2009, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by SH101

Which build with and chaos planes or labirynth?

as listed in the first post of this topic.
only with channeling as energy manegment.
tried it again, only 5 ecto's now

still nice, but now its keg farming time

陰影 · Mar 17, 2009, 04:56 AM // 04:56

i dont think u can do this still do this. . . . .due to uw updates

Amnel Ithtirsol · Mar 17, 2009, 05:09 AM // 05:09

Can do all of the Lab reasonably efficiently but it just takes too long on mindblades. (doable, just not time-effective)

I'd stick with the A/E fire builds.

lewis91 · Jun 02, 2009, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Nice guide and ive been following it to the T. But i still cannot get to "Ecto land" lol, everytime i go, i either get 3 behemoths in the door, or my charged blackness patrol is stopped right in the way, is there anyway to overcome these problems or is it a /resign job and just go again? One of these problems has happened all of my 10 runs :s