Curse

A Simple Farmer · Jan 30, 2008, 07:00 AM // 07:00

Hey this a thread to keep track of alternate Hard Mode builds for the Temple of the Damned dungeon aka Cathedral of Flames. So if you are bored paying to be run in temple, or if you just want to get your Deldrimor Title Track up. It's time to dust off your old Characters, and try some new builds.

These Builds are all variations on my 600Rt/Smite build. I'm only switching a couple skills to make it work (except for Warrior). I've already made my fortunes & new builds keep me interested in GW.

These aren't intended as 2man runs. Only a couple are easy, most are hard to do. They are meant for a hero and U, & after a while, you'll be faster with a hero than with a person.

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Standard Use:
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How-To do you use a SB hero? It's a little difficult to get started on, so 1st learn how to use the standard MoMe Build and the run itself. Take the time to read this
Be aware most of these builds have no interrupt prevention.
I'm not a great 600, but I barely ever get interrupted. The key is good agro, and casting SOA at the time you agro. So I usually, flag a hero well back, if it's a patrol, I wait till they are walking towards me (if it's a standard group, I walk up my bubble to just before agro). I select myself (F) and click on Ogden's SB. As he's running up, I'll precast PS, and just as SB is cast on me, I agro.
As soon as they BEGIN runing towards me (I watch miniMAP) I cast SOA, then SpBo, followed by whatever skills are optionals in my build as needed. While waiting for SOA to expire If energy is maxed, I'll recast PS. Otherwise I wait till SOA blinks, then cast SpBo and SOA as soon as it becomes recharged (you are bridging the GAP of no SOA with SpBo). By the time the second SOA expires, your SB should be off, and mostly everything should be dead.
Around Mesmer's cover PS with SpBo. Easy Peasy.
Video Examples:
I've shot a couple Vidz so you can get the sense of timing, as well as energy management.
Typical 600 Gear:
Starter Armor. (the lower the armor the better)
Sup Vigor Rune, survivor insignias and runes of Vitae galore $$$
Caster's Spear (20% enchanting mod) +45 offhand (while enchanted)

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Hints:
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I'm pretty sure you can use a superior Salvage Kit to salvage the runes off Ogden, without running the risk of 'destroying' his heapiece. So you could probably run him as 16/16. Also if Ogden has some severe DP, just remove both runes, at the fire dart at the end of level 3 & facing Murakai

Pull the Steward out from the group. Once it's dead, head back to Ogden to Regen, and get another SB to go pick up the key.

When Facing Murakai, pull her over the Flame jet closest to her, (toward the left bridge). If she is burning she dies faster, and there is less chance that the 'powerbar' reaches max and then Ogden will be diseased. So check your Hero's DP for health

For Spiders, try running away from them, then cast spell, apparently if they are moving they can't interrupt.

Concerning Energy Use:

Don't SPAM your skills

When you face the last 1-2 Ghouls, don't use SOA just sb but do use SOA for the Char. The char have some pretty good degen.

Also, cast PS a LOT while there are big mobs, then only as needed when it's down to a the last couple stragglers.

I guess another tip would be to not recast your SB and SOA as soon as they expire, rather let your health drop down a bit, you can add a couple seconds to SB, works great on Murakai.

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Running
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Have party members bring a heal for Ogden to counter the new Reversal of Damage, Optimally, it'd be Reversal of Damage, and Weapon of Remedy or Vengefull Weapon. If the weapon spell is removed recast BOTH (Ogden is always enchanted with Blessed Aura)
Don't bring Light of Deldrimor
Running can be very profitable, but can also make a lot of enemies. Don't run one of these builds, unless you don't suck. Then by all means do, and charge a lot; you're worth it.

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Smite
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Hero: Ogden
Typical Smite Gear:
Enchanting weapon with a +1 (20%) smiting/devine offhand.
Attributes:
15 Devine, 16 Smiting (or 16 Devine, 15 Smiting)
Template Code: OwAT443A5IllMi5DfyDgyEA
[Blessed Signet][Signet of Devotion][Spell Breaker][Retribution][Holy Wrath][Balthazar's Spirit][Blessed Aura][Rebirth]
Use:
On Spawn, cast up maintained enchants, (let Hero Manage Blessed Aura on himself).
Keep your Hero flagged at least an Agro Bubble away. Press 'f' (target yourself). Then cast for hero, Blessed Signet, Glyph of Lesser Energy, Spell Breaker
Hero will run up and cast SB on you; immediately agro & follow standard use (see above).
Alternate Skills:
If you don't die a lot, you can add Glyph of Lesser Energy for Rebirth
If you're a runner, you can add Glyph of Lesser Energy for signet of devotion

Notes:
Reversal of Damage update, causes Ogden to get hurt, this is normal.
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Tanks
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Me/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Attributes:
16 Fast Casting, 12 Protection
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Mantra of Recovery][Persistence of Memory][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code: OQNCA8zjW8uWPaA6U9B9IkA

Use:
Non-Standard; Mantra Of Recovery, speeds up the recharge of Shield of Absorption. Allowing for an almost continuous SOA.
When there are only a few enemies left, save energy & stop using SOA and Mantra of Recovery
Once you are confident with your build you could replace persistence of memory with Light of Deldrimor.
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Alternate Build:
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Lyssa's Aura][Mantra of Resolve][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
TAlternate Code: OQNCM8zjW8uWPaZRA9B9IkA
Alternate Build Use:
Standard; Use Lyssa's Aura once Spell Breaker Expires.
Notes:
You can agro upto 2 groups with this build.
I've Verified this build works in Temple.
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De/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Because of the innate health bonus, and higher armor, you might want to leave off the chest armor to have a more consistent higher damage
Attributes:
11 Wind Prayers, 3 Earth Prayers, 9 Mysticism, 12 Protection
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Mystic Regeneration][Mystic Twister][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code: OgOk8wq6qwijW8uWPYvTX9RIheA
Use:
Standard
Alternate Skills:
Once you are confident with the build you could replace Mystic Twister with Light of Deldrimor. (my char doesnt have it yet.) This would free up points to go into Mysticism(9-->12) or to get a q9 in Scythe Mastery.

Notes:
You can agro only 1 group at a time with this build.
I've Verified this build works in Temple.

UW Variation
Credit: joshuarodger

[600 Derv Tank;OgOk4wP7qxKT9QLeXNJqX2L9QeA]

12 smiting
11 protection
6+1+1 earth prayers
2+1 mysticism

can kill anything in UW up to chaos plains. can replace [fleeting stability] with [rending aura] and [mystic regeneration] with [mystic twister] if you all you want to do is kill aatxes and smites. of course change all earth prayers attribute points and runes to wind prayers. but with 700+ HP holy wrath and retribution do a lot more damage. killing smites with this build can take a little time especially if it's down to the last one of the group, due to their divine intervention and reversal of fortune. that's why if all you want to do is clear smites and aatxes you should use the 2nd set of skills.

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Rt/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Attributes:
16 Restoration, 3 Spawning, 12 Protection
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Vengeful Was Khanhei][Vengeful Weapon][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code: OAOj8whM5Max7a9wiR80HhE6BA
Use:
See the guide on PVX wiki: See here.
Once you are confident with the build you could replace Vengeful Weapon with Light of Deldrimor.

Notes:
You can agro 2 groups at a time with this build.
I've Verified this build works in Temple.
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Ne/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Attributes:
14 Soul Reaping, 12 Protection
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Spell Breaker][Light of Deldrimor][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code:
Use:
Standard
Alternate Skills:
[Mark of Protection]

Credit:
Fuzzy Taco
Notes:
I'd agro 1-2 groups with this build, lot's of energy thanks to soul reaping!
I've Verified this build in Temple.
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As/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Also have equipped silenecing anchanting daggers, to increase dazed
Attributes:
16 Shadow Arts, 3 Critical Strikes, 12 Protection
[Protective Spirit][Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Shadow Refuge][Beguiling Haze][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code:
Use:
Spam Shadow Refuge, cast Beguiling haze on caster after Spell Breaker Wears off.
I Haven't gotten my Assassin there yet. If anyone can give me feedback as to if it works I'd appreciate it.
Alternate Skills:
[Air of Superiority]

Notes:
I'd only try 1 group at a time with this one.
I've yet to Verify this build in Temple.
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El/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Attributes:
12 Energy Storage, 12 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Glyph of Renewal][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Light of Deldrimor][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code: OgNCw8zkW0ywdV9Apo+QIB9A
Use:
Precast PS and Glyph of Renewal, *wait 5 seconds* Spell Breaker, AGRO!
As soon as you see them running to you (I use the minimap) cast SOA (just once, as it will renew), SpBo, LOD, Glyph of Renewal *wait for SOA to flash* SOA, SBond, PS = at this point, there should only be a couple stragglers and spirits, so you should be fine with just SBond & PS

Alternate Skills:
[Glyph of Concentration] instead of LOD

Notes:
I've done 2 groups at a time with this one.
I've Verified this build in Temple.
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Mo/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
See above ^^
Attributes:
16 Smiting, 14 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Reversal of Damage][Signet of Judgment][Essence Bond][Vital Blessing][Life Attunement]
Template Code: OwAC48zjW8uWPwrmE9RIheA
Use:
Standard.

Alternate Skills:
Just kidding folks this is the Standard Build Set(though I'm sure mine works.)

Notes:
I've done 2 groups at a time with this one.
I've have yet to Verify this build in Temple.
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Wa/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
Sadi's Benediction
I'm actually using just a headpiece. I use a sup str (for Sig of Stamina) then switch to nothing (festival).
Attributes:
9 Smiting, 6(10) strength, 7 tactics, 12 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Wary Stance][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Reversal of Damage][Spell Breaker][Essence Bond][Signet of Stamina]
Template Code: OQMU4yHHt6Nax8ydtegXjIDW9BA
Use:
Standard. If you have a fear of being interrupted use wary stance before SOA
Alternate Skills:
Light of Deldrimor instead of reversal, if you go this route, change points from smiting into Str.
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Alternate Build
Attributes:
12(16) strength, 12 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Air of Superiority][Spell Breaker][Essence Bond][Signet of Stamina][Life Attunement]
Use:
This build uses no armor and a high str and to get 800 health to trigger max possible damage on Holy Wrath (53). However without life attunement SB wouldn't heal enough (8 per trigger).
Swap rebirth on Ogden for Blood Ritual code: OwQTQGHD5IllMi5DfyDgdCA

Alternate Skills:
Light of Deldrimor instead Air of Superiority
Healing Signet to lower armor level (can it go into the negative?)
Wary Stance to cover for interrupts.

Credit:
Larcen
Notes:
I've done 2 groups at a time with this one.
I have Verified this build in Temple.
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Pa/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
Sadi's Benediction
Festival headpiece of sup vig.
Attributes:
12 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Spell Breaker][Light of Deldrimor][Air of Superiority][Vital Blessing][Essence Bond]
Template Code:
Use:
Standard.
Swap rebirth on Ogden for Blood Ritual code: OwQTQGHD5IllMi5DfyDgdCA

Alternate Skills:
Air of Superiority instead Light of Deldrimor

Notes:
I would do 1 group at a time with this build.
I haven't Verified this build in Temple.
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Ra/Mo
Typical 600 Gear:
Sadi's Benediction
Festival headpiece of attunement.
Radiant leggings of Attunement.
Attributes:
12 Wilderness, 3 Expertise, 12 Protection
[Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Serpent's Quickness][Melandru's Resilience][Storm Chaser][Vital Blessing][Essence Bond]
Template Code: OgMT847g5RLeXrHInhzxJkoPAA
Use:
SB,PS,agro,SQ,SOA,SpB
SQ Should last 4 SOA which is usually enough to get past large mobs and into the stragglers. At this point you can switch to another stance depending on the group: Storm chaser for wraiths, and Melandru's for Char.

Alternate Skills:
Light of Deldrimor for Storm Chaser
Spell Breaker for Melandru's

Notes:
Works great against undead char and enchanted.
However the undead around undead bosses remove stances as do enchanted...
Works great against 1-2 groups.
I have Verified this build in Temple.
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Antithesis · Jan 30, 2008, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Very nice work. Looking forward to the rest of the builds

Bl00DGuY · Jan 30, 2008, 09:53 AM // 09:53

N/Mo work #1!

Thanks for the build!

I Will Heal You Ally · Jan 30, 2008, 10:08 AM // 10:08

Ummm is there an ele build?

Tia Deathstrike · Jan 30, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Yup same here, can't wait for an ele build. ^^

Desman · Jan 30, 2008, 11:25 AM // 11:25

does mesmer1 work?

Chasing Parked Cars · Jan 30, 2008, 01:51 PM // 13:51

I doubt theres a warrior build.. or is there? that would be intersesting xD
i might try out the Rt build for the time being tho, nice thread^^

Amazing Stroopwafel · Jan 30, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

may I warn everyone without an anti interruption skill in their builds for crypt ghouls and needling lava striders. also, when spell breaker expires Crypt Wraith will be able to interrupt you, ruïning your day.

strangely enough you forgot to post the Mo/Me build with Mo/N smiter...

Mr.Kotte · Jan 30, 2008, 05:23 PM // 17:23

LF: ele build, otherwise, pretty damn nice (notice I used the word damn as in temple of the damned, I thought that was very creative).

Stoneys Rock · Jan 30, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

as borat would say: "Its Nice" :- )

btw one little thing with the smiter build:
[card]Blessed Aura[/card]
Blessed Aura can only be cast on the caster casting it.
Ergo Ogden can only cast it on himself as he has the skill.

Josh · Jan 30, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock

as borat would say: "Its Nice" :- )

btw one little thing with the smiter build:
[card]Blessed Aura[/card]
Blessed Aura can only be cast on the caster casting it.
Ergo Ogden can only cast it on himself as he has the skill.

That'll probably be for Spellbreaker..?.

Abonai Laguna · Jan 30, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

I search the ele in here

, but it looks nice, I must say

Ty

I Will Heal You Ally · Jan 30, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

Um eles can constantly keep Obsi Flesh so we won't probably need SB except for pulling and things like that

Mr.Kotte · Jan 30, 2008, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

Um eles can constantly keep Obsi Flesh so we won't probably need SB except for pulling and things like that

Interrupts...

A Simple Farmer · Jan 31, 2008, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desman

does mesmer1 work?

Under notes, I put that I've verified it. So yeah it works and it's probably the easiest to use of them all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazing Stroopwafel

may I warn everyone without an anti interruption skill in their builds for crypt ghouls and needling lava striders. also, when spell breaker expires Crypt Wraith will be able to interrupt you, ruïning your day.

strangely enough you forgot to post the Mo/Me build with Mo/N smiter...

Thanks for the heads-up, I posted a little How-To section. The key is to have SOA up before the melee gets to ya. They seldom last longer than a second SOA.
PS. Posted a monk build... Is that the one you were looking for?

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Originally Posted by I Will Heal You Ally

Um eles can constantly keep Obsi Flesh so we won't probably need SB except for pulling and things like that

Opted to not go for the ObFl as it's 50% slowdown is a real bummer. You may also be disappointed at Glyph of renewal; ignoring the damage dealing capabilities of the ele, but I was going for safest build, not fastest.
However, once I got the hang of the pre-casting. I was able to agro 2 groups at once. Which make the run a LOT faster, than killing a single group at a time fast. All in all, it's pretty close in stability to the mesmer build.

Bl00DGuY Nice screen, glad you're enjoying it.

blurmedia · Jan 31, 2008, 08:46 AM // 08:46

When you say you verified them to work in the temple, did you actually run the entire dungeon in HM or just parts of it?

jbwarrior · Jan 31, 2008, 01:15 PM // 13:15

Really nice, I have to try the Ele buidl

vespertine · Jan 31, 2008, 01:47 PM // 13:47

tried the mesmer build yesterday.. works good.. only tough situation was to get the bosskey on lvl3.. but the steward can be pulled back, so you only fight him alone..

overall: GJ, "A Simple Farmer"

Stoneys Rock · Jan 31, 2008, 04:09 PM // 16:09

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Originally Posted by Josh

That'll probably be for Spellbreaker..?.

I was thnking that too but

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Simple Farmer

On Spawn, cast up maintained enchants, (let Hero Manage Blessed Aura) on yourself.

mind you its most likely a typo ^^;

BTW :- ) I tried the necro build with contagon its pretty good.

Nice builds really having fun mincing charr. <3

A Simple Farmer · Jan 31, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by blurmedia

When you say you verified them to work in the temple, did you actually run the entire dungeon in HM or just parts of it?

Whole thing start to finish, I took some screens. Should I post em y/n?

On the same note if enough people are having difficulty with the SB Hero build, I'll post a vid or too as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stoneys Rock

mind you its most likely a typo ^^;

BTW :- ) I tried the necro build with contagon its pretty good.

Nice builds really having fun mincing charr. <3

Thanks for the type check Stoneys Rock, Glad the Contagion build works. I've got my Necro to the mission at longeye's (I'm getting sick of repeating that mission) and can't wait to try it.