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alexander92 · Jul 28, 2009, 10:38 AM // 10:38

hi everyone i just raised a sin to farm uw with him.I tried the chaos planes farmer,the one using fire magic and after many runs i finaly did one that was succesfull but no ecto drops

.Anyways i fiind this farm really slow and boring and a little risky for me so i'm not going to do it.I put on the perma silver form build which i see is also used in uw speed clear and i was wandering if i need high reputation ranks for that to work and what would be the easiest role to start with uwsc.I was thinking of making a necro for this purpose as it seems easier but i never did this before .I watched a lot of videos and the 2 roles i think i could be able to do are the wastes sin (i fared there with other charcaters so it's the only area in uw i really know,but it seems well"different" with the perma build

) and the vale necro .Anyway i was hopping the more experienced of you could give me some tips on how to start and what is the easier role.

Lord Sahem · Jul 28, 2009, 11:16 AM // 11:16

First of all: Don't pug before you haven't tested your area successfully, pugs will thank you

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Originally Posted by alexander92

and i was wandering if i need high reputation ranks for that to work

one word: no

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Originally Posted by alexander92

and what would be the easiest role to start with uwsc

Let's look at what might be problems:

Chamber: Pull large groups together very fast without getting stuck
-> Don't with a bad connection

Wastes: Right distance to coldfires, otherwise you will be dead; when playing with death's charge, the beginning of your quest could be a problem when they spawn badly
-> Even with minor lags no problem

Vale Assa: Pull groups so that they can't kill your necro; Use chilblains at the right moments so that you don't run out of energy; Pull the mindblades correctly, so that they can't hurt the souls or your necro
-> Better do some more practice runs to get that right

Vale Necro: Don't walk just anywhere; wait until your assa says you can attack; Use chilblains when needed
-> Not as hard as the assa job, but you need to communicate

Planes: Don't get stuck/die somewhere in mnt; Don't kill unnecessary foes; Recast SF right at the moment when it's recharged while doing 4H
-> Watch YT-videos too see which to kill and it shouldn't be a big deal

Pits: Make sure you walk to mnt first and don't die in mnt for some reason (traps, charged, whatever); Don't die because of a foc-spike (watch which foes creat the minions); Don't leave foes alive that could harm 1. the reaper and 2. the ghosts
-> YT for which to kill, rest is training

Pools: Don't die in mnt (orly? :P); avoid charged as much as possible (up to 3 groups is possible, more than that: run); Recast SF at the moment when it's recharged while doing 4H
-> Needs some practice to get the route right, but no big deal from then on

Mnt: Pull Aatxes + Graspings away from the other 3 terras, wait until they're through; if blocked: Kill the behemots without getting killed by traps; don't die in mnt obviously; clear the monument without getting killed by traps
-> Imo the hardest area, don't try this first :P

matrix777 · Jul 28, 2009, 03:12 PM // 15:12

This is just my opinion, but i started in pits and i think that is the best one to start with. My reasoning is that u have a different build than a normal sliverform, so u have to improvise when running to your area. It also teaches u to be aware of your surroundings...you cant aggro a random group of charged head-on and just pray to get away, u have to wait for them to patrol or whatever the case may be. This may not be the easiest area, but i think it teaches you the most about uwsc. The good and the bad.

As shown in the above post, all areas have some disadvantages. I would say that since you know wastes from other builds, that may be somewhat of a starting point. I would just makes sure that you dont pug wastes for your first time, because of the ease of failure if there is some issue with the cancellation of shadow of haste. (Ive seen this happen unfortunately...took a guildie a few times to not let sf drop when canceling, but she turned out fine. On the plus side, we always knew when she was taking the quest tho.) Im not posting to discourage, just watch the YT vids and get an understanding of the concept and you should be fine.

the slasher · Jul 28, 2009, 03:41 PM // 15:41

uwsc is so simple and easy it hurts... I started as chamber, its 100% easy, all you have to do is spam skills, you don't need to worry about anything but wall step(OMG; you never used it in other forms of pve, its completely new, you'll get totally bamboozled its so hard (ironic))

afterwards, i went to do plains... cmon, with iau+feigned, you take 30 dmg from shock, with cons you should be able to endure, ahm 27 shocks in a spike (you'll hardly get 1 shock at you, which you'll regenerate in 2.1 seconds with feigned), so really, the only thing that can go wrong is you getting stuck at behes

afterwards, spread out abit.. plains will have tought you how to: avoid charges, deal with them and how to KILL them...

pits is, putting it short, easyyy... you don't even have to worry much about the minions if they go berserk... shadow step to a foe, have the minions aggro that foe, and your done.. (and theyll do some nice dmg too^^)

vale sin is another easy area... all you have to do is know how to plain assassin in general pve... manage your energy, cast an enchantment be4 you use golden lotus strike, and use chilbs when they cast IW

pools can be done as an a/me... you don't have to kill 1 charged blackness, though you'll have a hard time avoiding them all.. its safest to kill the 3 charges in front of reaper so you won't be caught by surprise while aggroing the terrors

wastes, just make sure you walk far away from coldfire nights so they dont use frozen burst, i dont recommend this area because you'll make me competition, i love wastes, especially due to the high ecto drop rate^^
this leaves us with mtns...

in mtns, make sure you kill the hardest spawn be4, because its when you'll have the most aggro on you... you can even kill a 6 behe spawn without interrupting 3 of them, you can outdamage their healing spring... however, try to interrupt as many of em as possible.. other than that, i can only recommend you to go youtube, but note this: mtns isn't as hard as everyone says, its only different every run, aand ppl hate it cause of low ecto drop rate, not because its hard(lol, not hard... just not as easy as the other areas)

i recommend you to start with either chamber or plains^^

FlibbyJibbits · Jul 28, 2009, 05:10 PM // 17:10

Plains is so easy you can do it with one hand. Its the easiest part I think, though I've only done mtns, pools, and plains. You just wait for the mountains sin to pull some stuff over, wait for the charged blacknesses to run up the hill, and then you run through, avoiding the traps, use IAU if you can't, maybe death's charge if you cant even get past them. When you get there, you just have to make sure that the "island" the reaper is on is clear, make sure that you got the last of the mindblades before killing the terrorwebs, and then wait for pools to finish so he can take the other side of 4h. After that, you're pretty much done, don't try to farm much unless you know where the mindblades spawn (after its done you can kill them all to find out which are safe to kill without aggroing them to the reaper.). Only thing pools even needs to think about is not getting caught by the charges, and mountains is just tedious. In my experience, plains tends to give the most ecto drops, but I always go with people I know anyways and split them up.